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Wiz Imp

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Thu Aug 7, 2025, 05:05 PM

Aug 7

I'm not sure why other articles didn't include that context. It shouldn't matter though. The Constitution explicitly says the Census is to count all residents of the US not just citizens. And without a citizenship question being part of the Census, there is no way to count the number of non-citizens that were part of the 2020 Census. Not to mention the 2024 election results would contain zero information to identify non citizens. Also, Trump is too stupid to realize, excluding undocumented immigrants would not net Republicans any seats. They would gain a seat each in Alabama & Ohio but lose a seat in Texas and Florida. The Democrats would lose a seat in California and gain one in Minnesota. Net change = 0.

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Trump orders Commerce Dept. to begin work on new census [View all] BumRushDaShow Aug 7 OP

A census costs a lot of money, and takes a lot of temporary employees to accomplish Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #1

The SCOTUS ruled 5-4 that doing the "citizenship" thing was illegal BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #4

I'm sure they will get around the ruling by just not asking the question Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #6

In this case BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #8

Yeah, this will likely be another "Infrastructure Week" situation. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #14

They ruled that *asking* about someone's citizenship was illegal Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #44

Oh they would racially/ethnicaly profile in a hot minute! BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #45

Not when "Big Balls" is in charge. thought crime Aug 7 #42

Am I wrong or don't most of the undocumented no_hypocrisy Aug 7 #2

The Census Bureau uses statistical models to estimate those who do not respond including non citizens. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #21

My husband worked on the 2000 and 2010 Census. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 7 #3

I also worked the census in 2010. ananda Aug 7 #31

yeah a "census". Javaman Aug 7 #5

"My deportation plan was a complete success... There are now ZERO illegal immigrants in the U.S.!" thesquanderer Aug 7 #29

The terms of a census is in the Constitution pioche4 Aug 7 #7

Correct. murielm99 Aug 7 #35

Well, considering how he really BLEW it for the last census... FakeNoose Aug 7 #9

Blatantly unconstitutional liberalgunwilltravel Aug 7 #10

ANOTHER distraction. mwb970 Aug 7 #11

If they aren't counted, won't state counts go down causing less congressional seats. mdbl Aug 7 #12

Apportionment would probably change for CA & TX... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 7 #13

And FL. BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #17

I doubt that FL... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 7 #18

FL is full of migrants from the Caribbean BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #19

Oh, they have tons of immigrants... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 7 #20

I updated the OP with an article about the labor trafficking that is a problem there. BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #22

The six states with the largest unauthorized immigrant populations in 2022 were: Wiz Imp Aug 7 #25

Trump is not talking about doing a new Census videohead5 Aug 7 #15

He explicitly said he was ordering a "new census". Recounting a previous census is not a new census. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #23

Yes, and Trump is always so precise in his use of language. thesquanderer Aug 7 #28

True. But the linked article gives no indication that Trump was talking about redoing the 2020 Census. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #32

Read this videohead5 Aug 7 #34

Where did that come from? You didn't include a link. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #36

Link videohead5 Aug 7 #37

Thank you! Wiz Imp Aug 7 #38

He stopped the census early in 2020. That must not have been enough to tip the scales. live love laugh Aug 7 #16

A Census can't just happen happen without any planning. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #24

I posted their previous Census schedule upthread (in an ebedded link though) BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #26

From the Census Website: Planning for the 2030 Census is Underway Wiz Imp Aug 7 #27

USSC: : 2020: "declined to rule on whether a president has the authority to exclude undocumented immigrants " riversedge Aug 7 #30

The constitution is 100% clear that apportionment is to be based on the proportion of RESIDENTS Wiz Imp Aug 7 #41

They could save a lot of time and trouble if they just had ICE conducting the census, Bayard Aug 7 #33

Will the census takers count and release the epstein files? PSPS Aug 7 #39

Just say "No." travelingthrulife Aug 7 #40

At the very least, this will send census intimidation into the stratosphere. thought crime Aug 7 #43

2030 Census would be under the next President Smackdown2019 Aug 7 #46

One side note... Smackdown2019 Aug 7 #47

After reading some of the comments I just realized what he really means jgmiller Aug 7 #48