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DallasNE

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13. Stillborn Decisions

Sat Aug 9, 2025, 09:03 AM

Aug 9

Why is this not obvious to Trump?

I have been posting since January that conditions are not ripe on the ground for peace and the current stillborn decisons will only drag out the process and prolong the war. Trump's stillborn decisions are just that: stillborn. It is past time to keep recycling such dribble. Things must go in a different direction or we will still be talking about the Ukraine war 3 years from now.

Zelenskyy's words summarize it well. "Ukraine is ready for real decisions that can bring peace. Any decisions that are against us, any decisions that are without Ukraine, are at the same time decisions against peace. They will not achieve anything. These are stillborn decisions. They are unworkable decisions. And we all need real and genuine peace. Peace that people will respect."

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Zelenskyy rejects Trump's proposal that Ukraine could swap territories with Russia [View all] Emrys Aug 9 OP

Game Over no_hypocrisy Aug 9 #1

Who cares about the Nobel outside of his head? Moostache Aug 10 #60

Swap territory. Stupid thing for TACO to consider. He swapped territory with Merv Griffin once ... marble falls Aug 9 #2

The Shart of the Deal. tanyev Aug 9 #3

"But it's really good shit." marble falls Aug 9 #9

Is that the same Taj Mahal . . . AverageOldGuy Aug 9 #6

... and then had it demolished? Yep. marble falls Aug 9 #10

Successful businessman JI7 Aug 9 #17

I remember Trump bragging about how he oasis Aug 9 #7

Back when Bill Clinton saved TACO and his bankers from going under by guaranteeing a billion dollars in new ... marble falls Aug 9 #12

Wow! 2016 "Frontline" segment tells it all. oasis Aug 9 #20

I'd forgotten all about that NJCher Aug 9 #15

Did I Miss Something? DallasNE Aug 9 #16

Exactly what I thought too. What part of Russia does he actually think they are going to "swap?" Ol Janx Spirit Aug 9 #34

47 and Putin are engaged in the mutual masturbation version of the "Art of the Deal." pat_k Aug 9 #50

Hand Tough Zelinski! Chasstev365 Aug 9 #4

Just sayin' . . . AverageOldGuy Aug 9 #5

Russia used to own Alaska, too, until it was purchased by the US. Think the orange monster wants to swap it back... Hekate Aug 9 #44

Why else do you think the meeting will be in Alaska? Diraven Aug 9 #58

Parts of almost every country in the world were formerly parts of other countries. Maps change constantly. eppur_se_muova Aug 9 #57

I suppose Russia could swap some territory in Siberia for the port city of Crimea ToxMarz Aug 9 #8

Maybe they should give Ukraine Moscow. That might be fair given the atrocities Russia has committed. travelingthrulife Aug 9 #22

Mr. trump makes PM Chamberlain look positively descive and insightful in comparisom Torchlight Aug 9 #11

Chamberlain had a much different and frankly vastly weaker hand to play dsc Aug 9 #33

Interesting take! cilla4progress Aug 9 #39

From my readings of the time, that's correct Emrys Aug 9 #55

Stillborn Decisions DallasNE Aug 9 #13

I have a counter-proposal DFW Aug 9 #14

I will trade you my shithole countries Hornedfrog2000 Aug 9 #18

There's Putin putting his foot in the door. It will end up being the same as Putin always wants ck4829 Aug 9 #19

Now we're talking business. ReRe Aug 9 #42

So Trump's brilliant new plan is the same old thing he has been saying. travelingthrulife Aug 9 #21

Worse than that - Emrys Aug 9 #23

Damn 3auld6phart Aug 9 #24

I think Trump enjoys destroying this country. He would do it for free. travelingthrulife Aug 9 #25

Trump will give himself a Knobel Prize anyway. C_U_L8R Aug 9 #26

AS IF Vlad the Invader would ever agree to give up one square centimeter of Russian land to Ukraine! ShazzieB Aug 9 #27

There's also the fact that in some of the disputed territory, Emrys Aug 9 #30

Thanks for the additional info. ShazzieB Aug 9 #32

The shark analogy is spot-on: "He has to keep moving or he'll drown" Hekate Aug 9 #45

K&R ReRe Aug 9 #43

What an absolutely craven suggestion by an absolutely craven little man. malthaussen Aug 9 #28

don't... myohmy2 Aug 9 #29

Just goes to show that Trump is Hey Joe Aug 9 #31

Maybe the meeting in Alaska is to discuss another land swap Bayard Aug 9 #35

Or Alaska? cilla4progress Aug 9 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 9 #36

Sounds like Donny brought his knee pads to the meeting. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 9 #37

We must have cilla4progress Aug 9 #38

Zelenskyy's Answer To Trump DallasNE Aug 9 #41

It's like Zelensky doesn't even want Donny to get the Nobel Peace Prize! tanyev Aug 9 #46

Trump, you're not dealing with a 14 year old nimphet here. Xipe Totec Aug 9 #47

Well, 8 months later we see TSF's plan to end the war in 24 hours. bluestarone Aug 9 #48

A polite way of telling trump to go to hell with Putin his master. republianmushroom Aug 9 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Jacson6 Aug 9 #51

I say bullshit to this. bluestarone Aug 9 #52

The Meeting Is In The US OhioTim Aug 9 #53

This is a little misleading... WarGamer Aug 9 #54

If you insist, and you're nothing if not tiresomely consistent Emrys Aug 9 #56

Since TACO mentioned 'Swapping' : Bread and Circuses Aug 9 #59

"Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier," jfz9580m Aug 10 #61

Doh! It appears Trump was talking out of his arse anyway (BIGLY surprise): Emrys Aug 10 #62