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46. I'm not agreeing with her case on either point

Mon Aug 11, 2025, 10:56 AM

Aug 11

and I think in a reasonable world she'd lose on both points or they wouldn't even take the case. I'm just dealing with the issue of standing. The only way this has affected her is that she has been required to give out marriage licenses and punished for not doing so. That is the only issue where she should have standing.

She cannot claim any personal injury for the existence of same sex marriages in the world.

If we have to deal with whatever crazy ruling SCOTUS comes up with, I would rather LGBTQ have the problem of having to shop around for marriage licenses rather than losing the right to marry altogether or have their already existing families cancelled. Since I don't trust SCOTUS on either issue, I would rather they not have the latter case to consider. Finding standing for that should be harder. Someone actually harmed personally by the existence of same sex marriage would be hard to come by.

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Yes, Kim Davis... MrsCheaplaugh Aug 11 #1

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So very well put! hamsterjill Aug 11 #39

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I say it should be tied with Loving V Virginia mercuryblues Aug 11 #86

I think Thomas will happily deny marriage equality MadameButterfly Aug 12 #90

I hate to disagree but liberals held the majority then. intheflow Aug 11 #21

It will. All part of the plan. Eliot Rosewater Aug 11 #52

I totally disagree. Everyone thought the same thing about Roe v. Wade which had been the law of the land for Texin Aug 11 #37

I wish I believed that Bettie Aug 11 #44

Seems to me that she is simply in the wrong job rurallib Aug 11 #4

I thought the same thing! Silver Gaia Aug 11 #5

I understand her having standing to complain about MadameButterfly Aug 11 #14

On the other hand, markodochartaigh Aug 11 #43

I'm not agreeing with her case on either point MadameButterfly Aug 11 #46

The job didn't require the certain things when she started FBaggins Aug 11 #18

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Using the same argument, as an atheist, working as a postal clerk, I could refuse Trueblue Texan Aug 11 #28

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Go away? They're back in power. dem4decades Aug 11 #60

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Sorry. I had mixed it up with the ACA decision where Roberts was the deciding vote Wiz Imp Aug 11 #48

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If they take, there needs to be nationwide demonstrations in the street. OrlandoDem2 Aug 11 #78

I hope this is true LearnedHand Aug 11 #81

Shouldn't be hard. It was a poorly-written decision in the first place. malthaussen Aug 11 #68

It was actually codified into law in 2022 BumRushDaShow Aug 11 #73

So it will be a two-step process.... malthaussen Aug 11 #79

The law was apparently written to address the 1st Amendment claims (religious objection) BumRushDaShow Aug 11 #82

Maybe not. They love to claim that Christo-Fascist straight whites are discriminated against... malthaussen Aug 11 #88

The separation... GiqueCee Aug 11 #69

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