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FBaggins

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5. Because they couldn't get a majority to agree on an amount
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 11:51 AM
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Last edited Thu Aug 21, 2025, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)

The five judges apparently split three ways.

It's a long decision and I've only gotten started with it - but it appears that one of the five judges would have tossed the entire thing on the theory that the AG couldn't bring the case in the first place. Two others agreed that she had the power and that at least some of the charges were valid... but that the ruling was so defective that the case needed to be sent back down to the supreme court to try again... except they knew there was no way that was going to happen. The two remaining judges agreed that James could bring the case and that the non-financial penalties were well constructed... but that the fine was unconstitutionally excessive.

Two judges wouldn't be able to assign a new/lower amount and they agreed that there was no way that the lower court could start over (because the defendant is POTUS)... so they tossed the entire amount.

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Trump $464 Million NY Civil Fraud Penalty Vacated on Appeal LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #1
Well, I'd have bet half a billion that this was inevitable Orrex Thursday #2
Why wouldn't the judge just reduce the judgement, Bayard Thursday #3
Because we are now a colony of Russian. orangecrush Thursday #4
Because they couldn't get a majority to agree on an amount FBaggins Thursday #5
WTF makes these judges more expert on what's "unconstitutionally excessive" than the AG and her team?! ancianita Thursday #7
I put the link to the ruling in the OP comments BumRushDaShow Thursday #9
Thanks. Forgot to look. ancianita Thursday #12
I get the frustration... but the answer is "almost everything" FBaggins Thursday #11
Thank you RoseTrellis Thursday #13
Justice ?? chuckle chuckle republianmushroom Thursday #6
He's still liberalgunwilltravel Thursday #8
THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOU ARE EXTREMELY WEALTHY OR HAVE A LOT OF POWER!!!! sdfernando Thursday #10
You're so right about that Fernando. Justice, and the entire system, is rigged for the wealthy. BComplex Thursday #15
Ever notice that only the creeps and criminals in the US get all the breaks? Bev54 Thursday #14
i am gonna declare all my property is worth $1 pimpbot Thursday #16
Not all is lost, yet (?) BaronChocula Thursday #17
Statement from AG James LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #18
How many appeals to the appeals of the appeals of the other appeals... Justice matters. Thursday #19
The fraud finding was upheld, it is just the amount that is in question. mackdaddy Friday #20
Deadline: Legal Blog-The Trump civil fraud case is a mess. Another round of appeal could clean it up. LetMyPeopleVote Friday #21
The judicial system working as planned. n/t TheFourthMind Friday #22
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