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Happy Hoosier

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55. That is the part that is opinion.

Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:34 PM

Sep 25

Also, not sure we can say for sure he moved left. We can't know his heart. Many people, myself included, favor policy that is not exactly aligned with what we think OUGHT to be.

Politics is the art of the possible. Do you think Obama's opinion of marriage equality ACTUALLY changed, or do you think his stated position was determined by the realities of politics? Once marriage equality was not a political liability and possible, he enthusiastically supported it publicly.

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Protesters disrupt Kamala Harris' first stop on book tour over Gaza [View all] riversedge Sep 25 OP

Biden was old guard, and always tended toward moderate. ananda Sep 25 #1

Do you remember that pesky little thing called a global pandemic??? travelingthrulife Sep 25 #6

I never said he didn't, and that is called a straw man. ananda Sep 25 #8

It is not a strawman argument. travelingthrulife Sep 25 #11

I never said he didn't do that either. ananda Sep 25 #23

"I also said he moved some toward the left in his last years, but not enough. All of this is just true." Happy Hoosier Sep 25 #27

I don't see anything above your post that matches the definition of gaslighting. Doodley Sep 25 #37

Then you're wrong. Happy Hoosier Sep 25 #53

Well, I can see how "not enough" might be an opinion, since... ananda Sep 25 #40

That is the part that is opinion. Happy Hoosier Sep 25 #55

No, I've been watching Biden since the 80's. ananda Sep 25 #71

Biden voted NAY on Clarence Thomas thebigidea Sep 25 #75

Wtf? Why are you bringing the pandemic into it, when ananda was talking about ms liberty Sep 25 #56

THAT misinformation right there LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #12

He's the most progressive president we've had in decades mcar Sep 25 #22

Not in decades, ever. Eliot Rosewater Sep 25 #29

Yes, that could be argued, couldn't it? mcar Sep 25 #33

Best on labor, best on caregiving... etc. deurbano Sep 25 #74

any supporter of palestine who is spouting off at ms harris has earned whatever krasnov does to them. rampartd Sep 25 #2

Somehow markodochartaigh Sep 25 #30

i've suspected some of these idiots were agents provacateur rampartd Sep 25 #48

Easy for MAGA to manipulate these f6cking idiots wolfie001 Sep 25 #32

Oh, FFS. Scrivener7 Sep 25 #3

Though Harris wrote several times about tension between her and the administration, she also came to Biden's defense, riversedge Sep 25 #4

AND??? LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #13

To me, none of that matters... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 25 #16

She is a soft target Zorro Sep 25 #45

Most on-point comment yet BaronChocula Sep 25 #59

And she has no power to arrest and/or deport them, so they can feel virtuous without personal risk. deurbano Sep 25 #73

its safer and easier than protesting trump quakerboy Sep 25 #83

So these stupid people are unable to blame the GOP? Afraid of Krasnov? travelingthrulife Sep 25 #5

Why go after her... WomanWhoRoars Sep 25 #7

Came here to say same thing. NCDem47 Sep 25 #9

that the Far Left ..... LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #14

There is no far left. That talking point exists only in Republican Fantasy Land Autumn Sep 25 #20

hahahahahahaha LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #25

Well welcometo DU. Autumn Sep 25 #38

P.S. I am not a "Moderate" LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #39

You are arguing things I never said. There is no far left in the Democratic party. Autumn Sep 25 #47

Im a Liberal, not a Moderate...like this description LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #65

there are a handful of Moderates lefr LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #66

You called Liberals LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #68

There is in fact an infinitesimally small American "far left." thucythucy Sep 25 #41

As I said the far left are not members of the Democratic party. The Pukes Autumn Sep 25 #44

okay well LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #70

Ah, yes. Some of the SWP used to hang out around my art college in the east village. ... electric_blue68 Sep 25 #63

They were also intensely sexist. thucythucy Sep 25 #67

Woah! And Woah!... electric_blue68 Sep 25 #80

Yeah, they're basic argument was he couldn't be a rapist thucythucy Sep 25 #81

Omg, what BS! Inexcusable! electric_blue68 Sep 25 #82

im no Moderate or Progressive LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #64

I doubt anyone will drive Harris off her book tours. riversedge Sep 25 #18

It sounds as fishy as the Pacific Ocean RazorbackExpat Sep 25 #15

I agree, a set up once again. sheshe2 Sep 25 #50

have these morons not yet LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #10

A protesting man in red shirt with MAGA print on his t-shirt........... riversedge Sep 25 #17

Angry man yelling. Not exactly original or new. Trying to provoke a fight and not getting anywhere Walleye Sep 25 #31

The more things change the more they do not. BootinUp Sep 25 #19

Seriously? mcar Sep 25 #21

They don't and never did actually care about Gaza. PunkinPi Sep 25 #54

Fuck those assholes. Aristus Sep 25 #24

Come on guys show some courage. Protest against the villain in the White House. Walleye Sep 25 #26

they did it massively LyfeTimeDem Sep 25 #72

There is no cure for stupidity. THESE IDIOTS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS, lostincalifornia Sep 25 #28

Of course, why not, useless nonsense roscoeroscoe Sep 25 #34

Assholes. Where are they when Trump is gallivanting around? mzmolly Sep 25 #35

If I recall correctly, Netanyahu went into Gaza after the Hamas attack Raven123 Sep 25 #36

These protestors have already done enough damage to this country, its time for them to go back to their mother russia.nt ImNotGod Sep 25 #42

Sure, she's the problem. kacekwl Sep 25 #43

These people really need to understand they are undermining their own cause. walkingman Sep 25 #46

They are not protesters. They are trolls, either paid, or mentally unstable, brainwashed by the right. Doodley Sep 25 #49

Well, the question is who they were. maxsolomon Sep 25 #52

We all have "blood on our hands" when it comes to Gaza. maxsolomon Sep 25 #51

Fuck them UpInArms Sep 25 #57

Bullshit merchants one and all. bottomofthehill Sep 25 #79

Are they protesting at the White House? Gaza has gone from conflict to genocide with Trump's blessing. Vinca Sep 25 #58

But they remain silent when it comes to protesting the GOP or Trump. Why? QueerDuck Sep 25 #60

Let me see if I can figure this out. Buddyzbuddy Sep 25 #61

Why aren't these idiots protesting Trump? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 25 #62

So are they getting an early start on Abandon Harris 2028? sarisataka Sep 25 #69

JFC RandySF Sep 25 #76

Yawn! Wake me when they finally start protesting people in power. LonePirate Sep 25 #77

Fuck them. They gave us President Trump bottomofthehill Sep 25 #78