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48. Just like voting, Spending boycotts only work if people participate.

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The US economy grew at a 3.8% rate in the second quarter, significantly stronger than previously reported [View all] BumRushDaShow Sep 25 OP

Sure it did. LudwigPastorius Sep 25 #1

First thing I thought: U.S. Commerce Department is putting out these numbers, Lutnick doesn't want to be fired. sop Sep 25 #2

If those numbers are accurate, maybe they represent spending before tariffs spooky3 Sep 25 #3

It includes Libation Day (sp) in April, with front running & all kinds of unusual adjustments by corps to TACO. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #16

Sure, Jan. Scrivener7 Sep 25 #4

Awful that we have to wonder if official reports and stats are trustworthy. But there's good reason. And awful that wiggs Sep 25 #5

no need to decrease interest rates then, Mr Powell chicoescuela Sep 25 #6

So no more interest rate cuts? Raven123 Sep 25 #7

Has this been independently verified? greatauntoftriplets Sep 25 #8

The data for the next ten quarters is available and waiting to be released. twodogsbarking Sep 25 #9

Impossible Nigrum Cattus Sep 25 #10

Go to the web site or talk to an economist. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #17

Wait a while johnnyfins Sep 25 #11

Yes, the economy is artificially boosted by AI capex (data centres, energy) Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #19

The real data will be Tax receipts IbogaProject Sep 25 #29

AI Capex, while strong, is not driving GDP growth lapfog_1 Friday #53

They are moving to throw up data centres as fast as they can. There is construction, purchase of gas turbines, etc. Bernardo de La Paz Friday #57

and there's swamp land in Yuma mdbl Sep 25 #12

Reporting anything less than 3x reality gets you fired ThoughtCriminal Sep 25 #13

You just shat on all the career professionals there. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #18

Sure, blame our own ThreeNoSeep Sep 25 #24

How Dare You. Insulting people you don't know over facts you don't understand. Wiz Imp Sep 25 #31

Thank you. As if not getting fired automatically makes a worker corrupt. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #34

That's all true OrwellwasRight Friday #42

Everything he said would prevent a political appointee from juicing numbers. Bernardo de La Paz Friday #43

Thank you! You are right about everything. Wiz Imp Friday #46

The process makes it virtually impossible. Wiz Imp Friday #47

Nobody cares. Igel Friday #66

And when the reports are especially bad, like the last 2 payroll jobs reports, and the May retail sales progree Friday #67

Agreed - although I myself learned long ago that going through the mental contortions required to willfully Midwestern Democrat Saturday #68

Reporting it accurately in Trump's maladministration and you are fired. travelingthrulife Friday #49

Elevated spending because costs are increased by tariffs? nilram Sep 25 #14

LOL. "revised higher largely due to new additional data" PSPS Sep 25 #15

For some reason, I'm sure you had no problems believing the 1st quarter GDP Wiz Imp Sep 25 #32

In Fairness RobinA Friday #65

Does anyone trust any numbers from a Trump admin? ananda Sep 25 #20

I no longer trust numbers from trump LetMyPeopleVote Sep 25 #21

Hmmm lonely bird Sep 25 #22

The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was a progree Sep 25 #36

Okaaaay lonely bird Friday #45

Cool story, bro🙄nt Javaman Sep 25 #23

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, Hayabusa Sep 25 #25

... UpInArms Sep 25 #26

Bullshit. AltairIV Sep 25 #27

As the members of Delta Tau Chi would say it. CentralMass Sep 25 #28

Um! ProfessorGAC Sep 25 #30

The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was 6.0% progree Sep 25 #37

Thanks, I Missed That ProfessorGAC Friday #44

But does "inflation-adjusted," adjust for tariff increases? Doodley Friday #55

This message was self-deleted by its author progree Friday #61

New answer: Apparently not, if AI is to be believed progree Friday #62

Thank you for the info. So, tariffs could, at least partly, be distorting the numbers. Doodley Friday #64

A major reason for the increase is actually a quirk in how the GDP is calculated. Wiz Imp Sep 25 #33

They're messing with the numbers. n/t aggiesal Sep 25 #35

Yah right Lemon Lyman Sep 25 #38

I don't believe it at all. CaptainTruth Sep 25 #39

I was expecting 38%, 3800%, or 38,000,000%. So disappointing. hay rick Sep 25 #40

I don't Rebl2 Sep 25 #41

Just like voting, Spending boycotts only work if people participate. Hotler Friday #48

Instead of trafficking in conspiracy theories about how everything is "fake" (it's not) Wiz Imp Friday #50

Sure it did. Ocelot II Friday #51

I trust no numbers coming from this gang. Ritabert Friday #52

nice, cnn! way to spin "inflation was even higher than previously thought" as a positive thing. unblock Friday #54

The "personal consumption expenditures price index" is reportedly the Fed's favorite inflation gauge progree Friday #63

Do we believe this? No. WhiteTara Friday #56

I'm surprised they didn't report 38 percent Bristlecone Friday #58

Yeah sure kimbutgar Friday #59

I don't believe it. Paper profits, at best, outright lying and statistics manipulation at worst. /nt artemisia1 Friday #60