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pat_k

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10. Of course not. It would include the 150,000 fed workers who took the package.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:37 PM
Wednesday

They were technically employed through 9/30, so the job losses would be counted in the Oct report.

The BLS report certainly describes a jobs bloodbath in numbers that don't get picked up in private sector reports like ADP.

Ensuring the non-release of that report is probably why the felon didn't put much pressure on the Republicans to get rid of the filibuster. When the danger passed, he sure as hell would have and the the House CR would almost certainly have been passed by the Senate Republicans this week to ensure the government was open as people went home for Thanksgiving.

It seems to me there is widespread false premise that the only "win" would be getting an extension of the ACA subsidies. But there were two ways to win:

1) Trumpublicans ended the shutdown by adding an ACA subsidy extension

2) Trumpublicans ended the shutdown by jettisoning the filibuster.

Option 2 was a far, far, far, far better outcome than the "deal."

The 5 additional defectors only needed to hold out another week or so. In addition to the malignant narcissist-in-chief ramping up the pressure, rank and file Trumpublicans dread of their constituents hating on them over Thanksgiving dinner, would have pushed Thune to cave on the filibuster. The result:

-Instead of saying, "Why oh why did the Dems subject us to this pain for nothing," more would be livid with: "You mean you could have ended this by getting rid of the filibuster before it even started!!!"

-Democrats would be the ones that stood strong, doing battle on behalf of the American people with the leverage they had right up to the point that that leverage was forcibly taken from them.

-Our Democratic electeds would have demonstrated an unprecedented strength.

-People who support the Democratic Party would be riding as high as they were on Friday. Enraged by the ACA loss, but proud as hell of the strength demonstrated.

-The depravity and cruelty shown by the felon during the shutdown would be all the more evident as his Trumpublicans took 100% responsibly for the horror show.


If you are angry, as I am, when we contact Democratic leaders I think we need to be crystal clear that they failed us, not be failing to get their demands met, they failed us because in this fight we had faith that they would (1) make their demand, (2) hold out until either (a) MAGA R's met the demand, or (b) MAGA R's went nuclear and ended the shutdown on their own, without the complicity or capitulation of the Democrats.




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It's too historically excellent to see the light of day Prairie Gates Wednesday #2
The folks in the government that give a sh__ exboyfil Wednesday #3
Suspect that will be the case every month going forward. bucolic_frolic Wednesday #4
So far he has been unable to install a lacky. pat_k Wednesday #12
It is really bad for CEO's when their accountants won't cook the books /nt bucolic_frolic Wednesday #13
I know. Poor things! pat_k Wednesday #14
"caught isn't even considered a crime", true but the "Justice Department" considers the catchers to be criminals progree Wednesday #16
Heh... 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #20
Because they both blow chunks? Pas-de-Calais Wednesday #5
If October is bad, then we know the entire year is even worse FakeNoose Wednesday #6
"MOST BEAUTIFUL EVER SEEN!" durablend Wednesday #7
When there's a democratic president, Republicans and the media insist the buck stops in the Oval Office unblock Wednesday #8
The number must be pretty fucking bad for them to engineer this weak-ass coverup. LudwigPastorius Wednesday #9
The BLS Oct numbers are a jobs blood bath. It includes the 150,000 fed workers the took the "fork in the road." pat_k Wednesday #11
Of course not. It would include the 150,000 fed workers who took the package. pat_k Wednesday #10
That there will be no CPI report for October is not a surprise. As for the jobs report progree Wednesday #15
If the reports were so vital to the nations well being, Old Crank Yesterday #17
translation: THE NUMBERS SUCK Skittles Yesterday #18
For as much as the right rails against communism fujiyamasan 22 hrs ago #19
It must be really awful Blumancru 19 hrs ago #21
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