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"In 2002 and 2003 he invited me to fly on his airplane to support the work of the foundation, and in return for flying me, my staff, and my Secret Service detail who always accompanied me, Epstein asked only that I take an hour or two on each trip to discuss politics and economics. He had just donated $10 million to Harvard for brain research and he asked a lot of questions. That was the extent of our conversations. My only other interactions with Epstein were two brief meetings, one at my office in Harlem and another at his house in New York.

"I had always thought Epstein was odd but had no inkling of the crimes he was committing. ... I've never visited his island. When it was suggested that I traveled there without my round-the-clock Secret Service detail, which would explain why there's never been a record of me being there, in 2016 the Service took the extraordinary step of saying that I had never waived protection and they had never been there. Another person said she'd seen me on the island, but that I didn't do anything wrong. However, in early 2024, unsealed depositions showed that she'd only heard I was there but didn't actually see me. ... The bottom line is, even though it allowed me to visit the work of my foundation, traveling on Epstein's plane was not worth the years of questioning afterward. I wish I had never had met him."