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27. I interpret this as the Pope sending a message
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 04:54 PM
Sunday

against the anti-Christian Erdogan regime. In 2020 Erdogan converted the Hagia Sophia (Once the Byzantine Roman Empire's Cathedral) to a mosque. The site of Hagia Sophia was the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity since the first church was built on the site in 360 AD. In 537 AD the Hagia Sophia was completed and was an architectural marvel as the largest interior space in the world. When the Muslims defeated the Byzantines at Constantinople (now Istanbul) in 1453 AD, the Hagia converted to a mosque. But in 1935 it converted to a museum by the Turkish government under Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, aiming to promote secularism and cultural heritage in the newly established Republic of Turkey. This change allowed it to serve as a symbol of interfaith harmony and a historical site accessible to all, regardless of religion. Erdogan is changing all that.

https://harvardlawreview.org/print/vol-134/the-hagia-sophia-case/

Now, Christians cannot pray on or enter the main floor of the Hagia Sophia and must pay admission to enter the Hagia, unlike Muslims who pay no admittance fee. There's much more to the story of what's happening in Turkey and elsewhere which would require many hours of deep-dive investigating. If you're interested, I highly recommend looking into this.

BTW, the Hagia Sophia is a short walk down the street from the blue mosque.

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Why would the pope pray at a mosque? RandySF Sunday #1
His precedessors did, and the Vatican press release had expected him to muriel_volestrangler Sunday #5
Only in recent years Polybius Sunday #14
It said he wasn't invited to pray IbogaProject Sunday #17
" he asked Leo during the tour if he wished to pray for a moment, but the pope said he preferred to just visit" muriel_volestrangler Sunday #22
It may have had something to do with the way that the invitation was extended. lapucelle Sunday #26
It was simply a gesture of love and respect... ananda Sunday #2
When I was escorted into a mosque Zackzzzz Sunday #3
what i did not know : shoes of the fisherman rampartd Sunday #4
I think Peter DID fish in Louisiana. COL Mustard Sunday #9
"Not appearing to pray..." Mike Nelson Sunday #6
In the early 2000s I took off my shoes in the Blue Mosque truthisfreedom Sunday #7
The only time I've been in a mosque, I didn't pray either MurrayDelph Sunday #11
The more interesting part for me was the diyanet did not meet with him. Joinfortmill Sunday #8
Being an atheist makes all of this senseless. kellytore Sunday #10
But you couldn't help but put your two cents in. Martin68 Sunday #13
My two cents are in too. We are up to four. Believers are upset when confronted but non-believers are cast as being odd. twodogsbarking Sunday #16
Surprise, I'm an atheist too. Martin68 Sunday #32
I have learned to not try and explain what I do not understand. Atheist seems to be a religious label. twodogsbarking Sunday #34
My statement was a little more that what you wrote, but that's okay I'll forgive you. kellytore 12 hrs ago #36
All a big to do about nothing? paleotn Sunday #29
Cents and sensibility. Beartracks Sunday #30
Why wouldn't the Pope pray during a visit to a mosque? Martin68 Sunday #12
Maybe he thought a Catholic praying in a mosque would have been sacrilegious jmowreader Sunday #31
If the Pope is his god's representative, then he can pray wherever he happens to be. If a mosque somehow magically Martin68 Sunday #33
This message was self-deleted by its author kellytore 12 hrs ago #37
Religions sure have nice buildings. twodogsbarking Sunday #15
So do many museums, the Red Cross and both political parties. What's your point? Wonder Why Sunday #18
Religions have nice buildings. They really are. twodogsbarking Sunday #19
You're right. That's why they put them on Christmas cards! Wonder Why Sunday #23
Yep, they're built for humans within them to feel the glory of God. ancianita Sunday #25
Since he wasn't invited to (by the person who didn't come) maybe it would have been pnwmom Sunday #20
Beat me to it. My thoughts as well. paleotn Sunday #28
I don't buy that. They both believe in one god, and they both believe on prayer. Martin68 Sunday #35
I don't think they expect Christians and Jews to join in the prayers when they visit Warpy Sunday #21
Neither did I! Floyd R. Turbo Sunday #24
I interpret this as the Pope sending a message blue-wave Sunday #27
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