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24. The ruskies even have a name for it,,, Vranyo...He knows he's lying You know he's lying, and it's accepted.

Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:42 PM

Dec 29

It's in their culture...
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Vranyo (враньё is a Russian concept for a specific type of lie where both the speaker and listener know it's untrue, but maintain the fiction for social, political, or cultural reasons, often to save face, or navigate absurd realities, unlike a true "lie" (lozh) meant to deceive. It involves a mutual, unspoken agreement to pretend, seen in everything from polite half-truths to state propaganda, where challenging the obvious untruth is impolite or dangerous.

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Russia says Ukraine tried to attack Putin's residence but Kyiv says Moscow is lying [View all] highplainsdem Dec 29 OP

It's way past time for Putin to leave the planet. Irish_Dem Dec 29 #1

A one way ticket OFF Mother Earth. No return ticket! riversedge Dec 29 #5

There are some who say he's already left the planet and that doubles are taking his place. nt in2herbs Dec 29 #21

I think this is possible. Or Putin is in deep hiding and sending out doubles. Irish_Dem Dec 29 #27

How many times has Putin tried to kill Zelensky? Irish_Dem Dec 29 #2

I still think Zelensky shouldn't have eaten the food at tavernier Dec 29 #7

Did he actually eat the food or just move it around his plate? Irish_Dem Dec 29 #17

Such a classic bully tactic PatSeg Dec 29 #20

Yes exactly. When victims fight back, bullies are furious. Irish_Dem Dec 29 #25

It is so common, yet so bizarre PatSeg Dec 29 #28

Trump is just the front man. The snake oil salesman. Irish_Dem Dec 29 #29

Sadly true PatSeg Dec 29 #31

Classic attempt at a false flag operation... such bull Scheie...nt mitch96 Dec 29 #22

Putin is just like NuttyYahoo. travelingthrulife Dec 29 #3

It's difficult to determine who's the bigger liar: Putin or Trump. surfered Dec 29 #4

Putin is the better liar because he is smarter. Irish_Dem Dec 29 #18

Good idea but taking the dome off the Kremlin will do.... Historic NY Dec 29 #6

I'm waiting for putins pet structure to get smoked...The kerch bridge... That would burn his ass...nt mitch96 Dec 29 #23

I doubt this is true, gab13by13 Dec 29 #8

Putin doesn't need it an excuse. He tried to kill Zelensky the minute he invade Ukraine. Irish_Dem Dec 29 #19

Yeah, Putin is lying again, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 29 #9

100% correct. AZ8theist Dec 29 #16

The ruskies even have a name for it,,, Vranyo...He knows he's lying You know he's lying, and it's accepted. mitch96 Dec 29 #24

Note to Russia: don't start a war if you don't like attacks on your home. sinkingfeeling Dec 29 #10

Ukrainians doesn't waste armaments on symbolic targets. CanonRay Dec 29 #11

The "state terrorism" is Russia's alone and all its leaders. ancianita Dec 29 #12

I tend to believe Ukraine. pandr32 Dec 29 #13

Boy! What to do? Believe a brave, kind loving leader or the cousin of an elephant turd? chouchou Dec 29 #14

So? Bayard Dec 29 #15

If the Ukrainians killed Putin Turbineguy Dec 29 #26

I fail to see how that would not be appropriate at any point in the last 4 years?? Ukraine gets short-shrived constantly Evolve Dammit Dec 29 #30

If Ukraine did that, I would have no problem with it. Putin has tried to decapitate Ukraine many times, so all's fair. Emrys Dec 29 #32

More power to Ukraine if they did blue-wave Dec 30 #33

No wonder Trump drools so slavishly over Putin. travelingthrulife Dec 30 #38

Didn't Putin send assassins into Ukraine to kill Zelenskiy? Kaleva Dec 30 #34

No evidence produced yet; Russia is saying it can use this as an excuse to do anything it wants muriel_volestrangler Dec 30 #35

They needed an excuse? n/t Emrys Dec 30 #36

They need Trump to feel happy about what they do. So they need to look like a victim muriel_volestrangler Dec 30 #40

Since the details of any "security guarantee" for Ukraine we've heard of so far Emrys Dec 30 #41

I know this is permanent Groundhogs Day, but didn't Putin already use this lie on one of their last travelingthrulife Dec 30 #37

I feel like Biden could have ended this shit.. mountain grammy Dec 30 #39