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Marthe48

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17. I want names

Reply to malokvale77 (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:29 AM

Nov 2014

Name names, people. Even if people in the U.S. government aren't brought to trial, I want history to portray them accurately as human rights violators, as torturers.

I will never condone torture, even when some idiot asks about the most extreme, unlikely scenario, such as: 'you have a terrorist in your grasp, who knows where the bomb is that will take out (put most vulnerable spot here), but the terrorist won't tell you. Would you torture him to get the information to save lives?"

I just recently read the 1948 U.N. Declaration of Human Rights. The governments are trodding heavy on those rights. And thumbing their noses at the rest of us.

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‘We crossed the line’, US admits to UN anti-torture body [View all] DonViejo Nov 2014 OP

Unless the perpetrators are charged and put on trial, we have NOT taken responsibility for it on point Nov 2014 #1

Except that no Vice President can order a department or agency to do anything. He has an opinion 24601 Nov 2014 #2

Helping craft a plan, sit on the NSC council to put it in place is sufficient. He's guilty. on point Nov 2014 #3

He is definitely complicit, a co-conspirator lastlib Nov 2014 #12

So what would be his punishment if he ordered a fatal drone attack against a US citizen? 24601 Nov 2014 #24

You really think Dick Cheney didn't order departments to accomplish DonViejo Nov 2014 #5

You're not incorrect, in point, however; DonViejo Nov 2014 #4

The U.S. tortured people in its custody to death (at Bagram). That's murder and Bush, Cheney and KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #18

+ 1000 Caretha Nov 2014 #25

Mahalo DonViejo! Cha Nov 2014 #6

"WE" or NO ONE has taken "responsibility" for "not living up to values". northoftheborder Nov 2014 #26

Who is "we" Kimosabi? Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #7

So am I still sanctimonious for wanting Bush and Cheney to go for the big swing, on live TV? Doctor_J Nov 2014 #8

We crossed the line in the past... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #10

yes, because they were just so overcome with patriotism that they simply had to MisterP Nov 2014 #22

I don't like that "We" shit. malokvale77 Nov 2014 #9

I never even VOTED for someone who crossed the line. (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2014 #11

I want names Marthe48 Nov 2014 #17

Me neither, and I want Bush/cheney/wolfowitz et al brought to the Hague peacebird Nov 2014 #28

Creepy confessions of the guilty. nilesobek Nov 2014 #13

Yeah, what do you mean "we", Kimo sabe? rock Nov 2014 #14

Mary McPantload is a lying sack of shit... easychoice Nov 2014 #15

"Crossed the line"? We didn't cross the line... Javaman Nov 2014 #16

+1. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #19

+1000 just some patriotic folks torturing some other folks noiretextatique Nov 2014 #27

They broke the law. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #21

So when does the Bush Crime Syndicate face charges at The Hague? RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #20

Torture is wrong and against law. Prosecution is the only option. No weasel words. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #23

Prosecute those behind the policies bl968 Nov 2014 #29

Wll, DUH! Old Nick Nov 2014 #30