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Ol Janx Spirit

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21. Wait; what? We were clearly told that tariffs were going to pay for childcare for all Americans; eliminate...
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:58 PM
Yesterday

...income taxes entirely; pay down the national debt; and, make everyone so rich they wouldn't know what to do with all of the money.... I'm definitely not a Turnip whisperer, but I don't remember any of his supporters saying, "what he really means is Christmas is going to suck and you can only have five pencils for the school year." Those of us who are not his supporters did warn of this reality, but I guess we just aren't privy to the higher-power-ordained-and-guided brilliance of it all.... /s

Coherence has never been a strong suit of F-47, but this tariff policy is incoherent even for him. The stated goals are even at odds with each other. If the goal is to eliminate trade deficits by opening up markets to American-made products then you have to negotiate the tariffs down to very low levels to encourage that trade. But if your goal is to bring back manufacturing to the US then you have to maintain very high tariffs for a very long time in order to force Americans to only buy goods made in America which will encourage manufactures to relocate here. Of course this also means prices go up and stay up as we lose access to goods made in far less expensive manufacturing markets. If your goal is to eliminate income taxes then you need to tariff every imported product at over 200% to even match current income tax revenues--much less exceed it and do other things like pay down the debt and make childcare free. Of course, in the process you decimate any American manufacturer that sold on the global market.

I guess he is getting his guidance from that totally real economist Ron Vara.... /s

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Fool me once, Fool me twice C_U_L8R Yesterday #1
You don't need all that money anyway Bluetus Yesterday #8
Nobody needs thirty dollars! forgotmylogin Yesterday #18
One thing is for sure, True Dough Yesterday #2
I suggest he figure it all out by the Midterms. multigraincracker Yesterday #3
Americans should buy less....unless we're talking about all the crap he sells, amirite? tanyev Yesterday #4
They want a recession really badly IronLionZion Yesterday #5
Jesus. underpants Yesterday #33
A lot of their nonsense makes sense after that IronLionZion Yesterday #34
There's enough in this for several new FAFO flags. usonian Yesterday #6
Sounds like a winning message crud Yesterday #7
If at one time we were all "wealthy" DemMedic Yesterday #9
America will be wealthier than ever Kablooie Yesterday #10
Not really IbogaProject Yesterday #15
One can hear 'Back in the USSR' as the US is marched toward feudalism Attilatheblond Yesterday #16
I believe they plan to deliberately bankrupt the middle and lower classes, while also depriving them of higher education patphil Yesterday #11
Ding, ding, ding - by Jove I think you've got it! lark Yesterday #13
We all knew piddyprints Yesterday #12
Give him a rope to piss up. Too many people can't buy the food they need. Attilatheblond Yesterday #14
Same ol' belt-tightening austerity rhetoric from these piss-on I MEAN trickle-down stans Montauk6 Yesterday #17
Do it for the poor billionaires Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Yesterday #19
Those bdamomma Yesterday #26
Expecting every citizen to pay an additional 25%+ in taxes on everything imported Warpy Yesterday #20
Odd how the press was talking about how everyday people were struggling underpants Yesterday #32
Wait; what? We were clearly told that tariffs were going to pay for childcare for all Americans; eliminate... Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #21
Tariffs are meant to protect your domestic production I thought underpants Yesterday #30
Tariffs are just a form of economic warfare. As such they can do a lot of different things.... Ol Janx Spirit 9 hrs ago #39
Ha! He's still sing the same ol' tune "Blame Biden, blame Biden, tra la tra la.." FailureToCommunicate Yesterday #22
"the White House's messaging has evolved". Oh Yes. Kinda' like falsehoods are "Evolving" chouchou Yesterday #23
There is no White House messaging it turns on a dime dependent on his whim underpants Yesterday #31
What you say is true. I'm usually confused about the whole Trump reality. chouchou Yesterday #36
His tacit admission the Trump Tax has begin trickling down onto the consumer. Torchlight Yesterday #24
I needed some dental work done. BidenRocks Yesterday #25
Soon to become Biden instituted the tariffs and I'm fixing his catastrophe. NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #27
Lap it up Magats. You always do. Hassler Yesterday #28
It sounds Soviet. Depress want/demand. He sounds like he's got some give up. underpants Yesterday #29
He wants higher prices, he wants people to buy less, he wants fewer middle-class jobs. Midnight Writer Yesterday #35
Why not, it worked on Britain. Grokenstein Yesterday #37
Taxing the magats even more mdbl 13 hrs ago #38
The tariff money goes into a separate account at the US treasury that only he can spend PortTack 3 hrs ago #40
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