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highplainsdem

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11. I ran across Rick Beato's video about this last night - I'll post that at the end of this reply - and had
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:14 AM
Jul 1

planned to post about "Velvet Sundown" this morning, but logged in to see you already had. Beato is also sure it's AI, btw, and he isn't happy about whoever is behind this AI slop getting paid off the work of other people whose music was stolen to train the AI.

What do you think of this music?


It's homogenized crap. AI slop created only through the theft of all the copyrighted music the AI model used could be trained on.

Does it bother you that it's created through artificial intelligence, or do you enjoy it despite that?


If it DOESN'T bother you that generative AI was trained via the theft of the world's intellectual property, then you're giving a thumbs up to the theft and are trying for an ethics-free and conscience-free discussion of something that exists only because of that theft.

LudwigPastorius (reply 6) isn't the only person who suspects Spotify created this and is doing so to trick customers and fill up playlists with music they own and can use without paying royalties. (Spotify has already been filling up playlists with mediocre music that's apparently work for hire that they had created so they wouldn't have to pay royalties. I posted about Rick Beato's video on that a year or two ago.)

So this is a two-pronged attack on real music by real artists - first by using illegally trained AI, and then by diverting their users' attention to fake music Spotify owns and through that stealing revenue from real artists on Spotify.

If you think that's defensible, I'd like to hear that defense.








Editing to add a short clip from the earlier Rick Beato video I referred to above:




Editing again to link to a DU thread from last December about another way Spotify harms musicians and exploits users not caring enough about who created the music:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219837180

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OMG... "DUST ON the WIND" as opposed to Kansas' "Dust IN the Wind?" Are you kidding me? hlthe2b Jun 30 #1
See reply 11 below. It's likely Spotify created this. highplainsdem Jul 1 #12
I thought I hit the wrong button, That is nothing like the Kansas original at all. I don't like it. debm55 Jul 1 #27
My Youtube algorithm has put a lot of 50's/60's radio-pop type woman singers in front of me. The pictures look just NBachers Jun 30 #2
A lot of YouTubers who are apparently never hindered by ethics are now creating AI music that can be created highplainsdem Jul 1 #14
There's just no substitute for autotuned vocals over prefab backing tracks! johnp3907 Jun 30 #3
I am disgusted by the complete and total degradation is the arts FalloutShelter Jun 30 #4
So I maybe listened to one verse of each song. LuvLoogie Jun 30 #5
I Think The Word You're Looking For Is... ProfessorGAC Jul 1 #22
"Does it bother you that it's created through artificial intelligence..." LudwigPastorius Jun 30 #6
Agree completely, including that it's likely Spotify did this. See reply 11. highplainsdem Jul 1 #13
A comment I found on Rick Beato's video about this explains how Spotify is forcing this AI slop on people: highplainsdem Jul 1 #21
Interesting LudwigPastorius Jul 1 #23
You're welcome. I think Spotify's treatment of most artists is outrageous. And not identifying AI slop highplainsdem Jul 1 #24
Do you WANT to be scolded by the SlopBot? JoseBalow Jul 1 #7
I'm just the messenger on a lil ol' discussion forum True Dough Jul 1 #8
See my reply for JoseBalow. Same questions for you. highplainsdem Jul 1 #10
I agree, we're all here to share whatever interests us JoseBalow Jul 1 #15
You're certainly okay by me, Jose! True Dough Jul 1 #17
Ya, some things are inevitable and unavoidable JoseBalow Jul 1 #20
Since we don't have a SlopBot here, would you please stop using childish insults to object to people highplainsdem Jul 1 #9
Nah, I'm good JoseBalow Jul 1 #16
No, you're not. Not funny, either. AI slop generated by illegally trained AI tools might be a joke to highplainsdem Jul 1 #18
Oh no! JoseBalow Jul 1 #19
I ran across Rick Beato's video about this last night - I'll post that at the end of this reply - and had highplainsdem Jul 1 #11
Then again, how do real musicians train? malthaussen Jul 3 #33
As an average listener crosinski Jul 1 #25
See reply 21. Spotify is reportedly shoveling this slop onto people's playlists. I posted elsewhere in highplainsdem Jul 1 #32
The difference between AI music and human music is like the difference between a relationship Midnight Writer Jul 1 #26
Wait a minute! True Dough Jul 1 #28
Think I'll pass. marble falls Jul 1 #29
You're definitely not missing anything. But if you use Spotify, you might discover this AI slop is highplainsdem Jul 1 #30
Post from someone on Bluesky who says the tech be used to analyze the tracks showed they're highplainsdem Jul 1 #31
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