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In reply to the discussion: What's something you buy, but you know you're unlikely to use it all? [View all]eppur_se_muova
(39,758 posts)13. Thanks for info on kefir. And yes, white bread will last longer than any 'whole-grain' or multigrain bread.
I buy "Taiwan cabbage" at the local Asian grocery because they seem to last an incredibly long time in the fridge.
Leeks and scallions do best in a paper bag or thin plastic bag not sealed completely. As the outer layers go bad, keep them peeled off, and what's left is good many weeks later. I think my record with leeks is over two months.
BTW, the whole reason white flour was invented is because wheat with the bran in it spoils faster. Steam-powered hardened steel rollers made it possible to mill flour so fine that all the bran could be removed, leaving a much more spoilage-resistant product.
OK, so, before the 1900s you would go down to the local miller and have him mill or grind up what flour you needed; you would go home and make your breads, biscuits, cakes and whatever. The fresh milled flour could not be stored because it would spoil. The oils would go rancid within just a few days, which forced you to use the fresh flour soon after milling. In addition, the fragile nutrients once stored safely inside the wheat shell (bran), are lost. They oxidize away within 72 or so hours.
It was discovered that if the bran, middlings and oil-rich germ were sifted away leaving the endosperm (the white starchy part of the grain) that the refined flour would not spoil. This newly sifted flour was lighter, fluffier and had a very long shelf-life. Well, as a housewife, you loved that! You could then make your breads, biscuits and cakes whenever you wanted. At the time, only the wealthy had servants who sifted the milled wheat into white flour. But by 1910-ish the steel rolling mills started replacing the local millers and the white flour became available for the masses. The people bought the white flour and the cattle and chicken farmers took the sifted out goody: bran, middlings and germ as feed.
Again, I emphasize once the grain is milled, cracked open, it is sifted, the bran and middlings removed, then the delicate nutrients oxidize away meaning most of the nutrition is now gone. Gone! We are left with practically nutrition-less white flour. Even the bugs and rodents will not eat it. Yet, thats what weve been feeding our families for decades.
Stay with me . . .
Soon after this mass sifting-of-the-wheat, three diseases became EPIDEMIC:
Beriberi B-1 (Thiamine) deficiency: Two types: Wet affecting the cardiovascular system (heart muscle issues), Dry affecting the nervous system, (Can anyone say ADD, ADHD? Im just wondering?)
Pellagra B3 (niacin) deficiency: a disease of mental and GI issues. Also call the disease of the four Ds: Diarrhea, Dermatitis, Dementia & Death (Can you say skin issues, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Spastic Colon? Im again, just wondering?)
Anemia iron deficiency: fatigue, rapid heart beat, shortness of breath, headache, dizziness, and other sy{mp}toms
The officials traced these issues back to the sifting of the wheat and other whole grains and their lack of nutrition. They urged the millers to put the bran and germ back, but they refused. Hey, they were making too much money! The miller was making twice the buck from the same product. Can you say greed over human welfare? Since the vitamins had oxidized away, the officials said the refined flour had to be enriched or fortified with chemical versions. So, out of the 30 plus nutrients (that we know of) which are lost, only 4 were added back: iron and three B vitamins: B1-thiamine, B2-riboflavin, B3-niacin. B vitamins must be taken in balance, hence the term B Complex in order for the body to assimilate them properly. This synthetic form, which our bodies do not use as efficiently, does not represent the original ratios found naturally in the whole wheat and other grains. I dont know about you, but the term enrich and fortify is supposed to mean: to make stronger. Hmm, does that sound stronger to you? In the south, the mental institutions were overrun because of the severe niacin-B3 deficiency, resulting in Pellagra. These institutions began supplementing with niacin and soon the asylums were emptied. Note: Due to mothers consuming the nutrition-less refined flour werent receiving the adequate B complex, a fifth nutrient, B9-folate or folic acid (chemical version) was added in the late 1990s to help combat babies being born with brain defects and neural tube defects such as spina bifida.
https://healthyhomeprinciples.com/history-of-white-flour/
It was discovered that if the bran, middlings and oil-rich germ were sifted away leaving the endosperm (the white starchy part of the grain) that the refined flour would not spoil. This newly sifted flour was lighter, fluffier and had a very long shelf-life. Well, as a housewife, you loved that! You could then make your breads, biscuits and cakes whenever you wanted. At the time, only the wealthy had servants who sifted the milled wheat into white flour. But by 1910-ish the steel rolling mills started replacing the local millers and the white flour became available for the masses. The people bought the white flour and the cattle and chicken farmers took the sifted out goody: bran, middlings and germ as feed.
Again, I emphasize once the grain is milled, cracked open, it is sifted, the bran and middlings removed, then the delicate nutrients oxidize away meaning most of the nutrition is now gone. Gone! We are left with practically nutrition-less white flour. Even the bugs and rodents will not eat it. Yet, thats what weve been feeding our families for decades.
Stay with me . . .
Soon after this mass sifting-of-the-wheat, three diseases became EPIDEMIC:
Beriberi B-1 (Thiamine) deficiency: Two types: Wet affecting the cardiovascular system (heart muscle issues), Dry affecting the nervous system, (Can anyone say ADD, ADHD? Im just wondering?)
Pellagra B3 (niacin) deficiency: a disease of mental and GI issues. Also call the disease of the four Ds: Diarrhea, Dermatitis, Dementia & Death (Can you say skin issues, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Spastic Colon? Im again, just wondering?)
Anemia iron deficiency: fatigue, rapid heart beat, shortness of breath, headache, dizziness, and other sy{mp}toms
The officials traced these issues back to the sifting of the wheat and other whole grains and their lack of nutrition. They urged the millers to put the bran and germ back, but they refused. Hey, they were making too much money! The miller was making twice the buck from the same product. Can you say greed over human welfare? Since the vitamins had oxidized away, the officials said the refined flour had to be enriched or fortified with chemical versions. So, out of the 30 plus nutrients (that we know of) which are lost, only 4 were added back: iron and three B vitamins: B1-thiamine, B2-riboflavin, B3-niacin. B vitamins must be taken in balance, hence the term B Complex in order for the body to assimilate them properly. This synthetic form, which our bodies do not use as efficiently, does not represent the original ratios found naturally in the whole wheat and other grains. I dont know about you, but the term enrich and fortify is supposed to mean: to make stronger. Hmm, does that sound stronger to you? In the south, the mental institutions were overrun because of the severe niacin-B3 deficiency, resulting in Pellagra. These institutions began supplementing with niacin and soon the asylums were emptied. Note: Due to mothers consuming the nutrition-less refined flour werent receiving the adequate B complex, a fifth nutrient, B9-folate or folic acid (chemical version) was added in the late 1990s to help combat babies being born with brain defects and neural tube defects such as spina bifida.
https://healthyhomeprinciples.com/history-of-white-flour/
(Not the best source -- too much 'organic is holy' -- but the history part is pretty good.)
I learned about the impact of white flour on deficiency diseases only recently, from a History Channel program. "Wonder Bread" was a wonder because it was made only with white flour, and us stayed fresh much longer! But as white flour took over the American market completely, beriberi and other diseases rose to pandemic proportions, so the FDA started requiring addition of B-vitamins to white bread, which was then marketed as 'enriched' bread, as if that were some brilliant innovation, and not a correction of a grave and costly error. Will add a link to the program later -- pretty sure it was a "The Foods that made America" episode.
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What's something you buy, but you know you're unlikely to use it all? [View all]
True Dough
Aug 4
OP
Thanks for info on kefir. And yes, white bread will last longer than any 'whole-grain' or multigrain bread.
eppur_se_muova
Aug 4
#13
Onions and potatoes. They're packaged for families of 4-5. I cook for two, and one eats like a bird.
eppur_se_muova
Aug 4
#12