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pat_k

(11,995 posts)
62. Glad there's some improvement today. You may want to...
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:40 PM
4 hrs ago

...get a referral to a Rheumatologist for screening. Although gradual onset is common, there are cases of "explosive" onset in "non-traditional" larger joints that can come on fast and resolve fast.

AI summary of various Rheumatoid presentations and mimics.

While classic rheumatoid arthritis (RA) typically has a gradual onset, sudden or acute onset is possible, especially in older adults. Other conditions, including reactive arthritis and palindromic rheumatism, can also cause sudden joint pain and are often mistaken for RA.

Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)

Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.

Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.

Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.

Palindromic rheumatism (PR)

This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.

Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.

Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.

Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.

Reactive arthritis

This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.

Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).

Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.

Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.

Seronegative spondyloarthropathies

This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.

Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.

Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.

Other mimics

Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:

Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.

Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.

Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients.

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I hope you get the 20 years back tomorrow. Harker 23 hrs ago #1
I hope so... LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #2
Mrs. Charms there, ready to drive you if needed? Harker 23 hrs ago #7
She is, but I doubt I could get into the car. LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #9
They can come to you, I hope. Harker 23 hrs ago #13
I took an ambulance ONCE LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #14
I'm sure you can concoct an implausible back story to shut up the vultures. Harker 23 hrs ago #17
I...I....injured my genitals with a wooden headed axe! LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #18
Well, it has plausibility going for it. nt eppur_se_muova 23 hrs ago #21
Jeez Mr. Charms....is it a full moon? LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #22
It seems we age in sudden leaps and not gradually biophile 23 hrs ago #3
It might be spinal related... LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #6
Any reason you might have injured your coccyx ? I suffered a pull to my coccygeal ligament picking up a piece of paper. eppur_se_muova 23 hrs ago #24
The painful touch isn't exactly at my coccyx... LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #26
Per dose. Four doses per day. Warned not to continue beyond 3-4 days. eppur_se_muova 22 hrs ago #30
24 grams a day???????? LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #32
I'm pretty sure the caloric value was non-neglible. nt eppur_se_muova 22 hrs ago #33
Maximum dose suggested is 4,000 mg/day. LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #35
I don't recall that they did. OTOH, I had no other health issues, and was (reasonably) young and healthy. nt eppur_se_muova 22 hrs ago #36
Have you ever had a compression fracture? Marthe48 22 hrs ago #40
Thanks Marthe...no compression fracture that I know of. LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #41
Maybe a nerve is pinched Marthe48 22 hrs ago #43
Yeah, no one warned me PatSeg 23 hrs ago #23
SO SORRY! elleng 23 hrs ago #4
Oh No!!! calimary 23 hrs ago #5
Hope you are feeling better LuckyCharms. debm55 23 hrs ago #8
You didn't just STOP taking opioids today after having taken them the past couple of days? AZJonnie 23 hrs ago #10
Thanks Jonnie... LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #12
My dear LuckyCharms! CaliforniaPeggy 23 hrs ago #11
Personally, I would head straight to E.R. or call 911 to come get me. Pain is a message. LoisB 23 hrs ago #15
Get-your-ass-to-the-hospital. Please! chouchou 23 hrs ago #16
Thinking seriously about it... LuckyCharms 23 hrs ago #20
Sounds like your best option PatSeg 23 hrs ago #25
Horrible! I'm so sorry! Pain sucks! Diamond_Dog 23 hrs ago #19
Is it possible that you are dehydrated? Hope22 22 hrs ago #27
Thank you. No...I drink 2 liters of water a day, plus 2 huge mugs of decaf. LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #31
Pain is a message Lucky. mnhtnbb 22 hrs ago #28
My dear LC, holding you in light, with lots of very gentle virtual hugs. niyad 22 hrs ago #29
I'm really sorry to hear that LuckyCharms, JMCKUSICK 22 hrs ago #34
My spine is in bad shape John... LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #38
Arthritis does flare up and in unpredictable ways. soldierant 21 hrs ago #49
I'm with you, good luck JMCKUSICK 19 hrs ago #52
Any change in medication? Easterncedar 22 hrs ago #37
I've been taking a statin for decades. No change in dosage. LuckyCharms 22 hrs ago #39
Not that then Easterncedar 22 hrs ago #42
Probably not the issue, but before I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis... pat_k 22 hrs ago #44
Woah, LC! Maybe you should get an ambulance... electric_blue68 21 hrs ago #45
Pain ms.pamela 21 hrs ago #50
Have you tried ibuprofen? iemanja 21 hrs ago #46
My day like that was June 16/25 Mira 21 hrs ago #47
Hang in there Brother BaronChocula 21 hrs ago #48
Welcome to the club, (not) Bayard 20 hrs ago #51
Hey, LC, I hope you are feeling better. Let us know, ok? Easterncedar 17 hrs ago #53
I'm up and around today. Joint pain is slightly better... LuckyCharms 11 hrs ago #56
Good. Harker 11 hrs ago #58
I use Equate 8 Hour Arthritis Pain Relief Emile 14 hrs ago #54
Re: "Sudden Onset" - but this weekend you did say you occasionally couldn't walk without screaming... Donkees 13 hrs ago #55
Well, the back pain wasn't sudden onset, but everything else was... LuckyCharms 11 hrs ago #57
Maybe it is related to ''facet joint'' irritation ... Donkees 10 hrs ago #59
Glad there's some improvement today. You may want to... pat_k 4 hrs ago #62
Thanks so much for this information. LuckyCharms 4 hrs ago #63
I know your pain, LC. I feel like that most of the time. I grin and bear it or take tylenol sometimes. Clouds Passing 7 hrs ago #60
Checking in on ya. Hopefully pain will lessen over the day. Don't do Too much! electric_blue68 7 hrs ago #61
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