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In reply to the discussion: Holy cow. For some reason, I aged 20 years today. [View all]pat_k
(11,995 posts)62. Glad there's some improvement today. You may want to...
...get a referral to a Rheumatologist for screening. Although gradual onset is common, there are cases of "explosive" onset in "non-traditional" larger joints that can come on fast and resolve fast.
AI summary of various Rheumatoid presentations and mimics.
While classic rheumatoid arthritis (RA) typically has a gradual onset, sudden or acute onset is possible, especially in older adults. Other conditions, including reactive arthritis and palindromic rheumatism, can also cause sudden joint pain and are often mistaken for RA.
Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)
Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.
Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.
Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.
Palindromic rheumatism (PR)
This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.
Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.
Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.
Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.
Reactive arthritis
This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.
Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).
Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.
Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.
Seronegative spondyloarthropathies
This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.
Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.
Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.
Other mimics
Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:
Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.
Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.
Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients.
Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)
Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.
Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.
Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.
Palindromic rheumatism (PR)
This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.
Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.
Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.
Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.
Reactive arthritis
This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.
Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).
Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.
Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.
Seronegative spondyloarthropathies
This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.
Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.
Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.
Other mimics
Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:
Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.
Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.
Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients.
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Any reason you might have injured your coccyx ? I suffered a pull to my coccygeal ligament picking up a piece of paper.
eppur_se_muova
23 hrs ago
#24
I don't recall that they did. OTOH, I had no other health issues, and was (reasonably) young and healthy. nt
eppur_se_muova
22 hrs ago
#36
You didn't just STOP taking opioids today after having taken them the past couple of days?
AZJonnie
23 hrs ago
#10
Personally, I would head straight to E.R. or call 911 to come get me. Pain is a message.
LoisB
23 hrs ago
#15
Thank you. No...I drink 2 liters of water a day, plus 2 huge mugs of decaf.
LuckyCharms
22 hrs ago
#31
Probably not the issue, but before I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis...
pat_k
22 hrs ago
#44
Re: "Sudden Onset" - but this weekend you did say you occasionally couldn't walk without screaming...
Donkees
13 hrs ago
#55
I know your pain, LC. I feel like that most of the time. I grin and bear it or take tylenol sometimes.
Clouds Passing
7 hrs ago
#60
Checking in on ya. Hopefully pain will lessen over the day. Don't do Too much!
electric_blue68
7 hrs ago
#61