New York

eomer

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110. Because what matters is how many delegates you get, not whether you win the state.

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:54 PM

Apr 2016

Every state in the Democratic primary is proportional - you get more or less delegates based on more or less votes.

Every state in the general election is winner-take-all. How many votes you win or lose by doesn't matter.

So you want to get more votes to get more delegates in every state in the primary. But you don't care how many votes you get in a state in the general unless it changes whether you win or lose that state.

Edit to add: and, besides, it's possible someone would want to cheat the election to make sure that any one of the rightwing corporatists, including Hillary, wins. Someone who only wants to make sure the one candidate who's for ordinary people doesn't win. There are a number of plausible explanations. Your simplistic talking point that it could only ever be a GOP thing is just not necessarily the case.

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SO I CHECKED MY NY VOTER REGISTRATION STATUS [View all] markpkessinger Apr 2016 OP

That is freaking criminal! hrmjustin Apr 2016 #1

It's been a hard day on the planet. malokvale77 Apr 2016 #5

Military Contractors For Hillary 2016 billhicks76 Apr 2016 #36

What are you talking about? hrmjustin Apr 2016 #38

You Haven't Heard Of Them??? billhicks76 Apr 2016 #41

Is it also good for coups and death squads in Central America? BeanMusical Apr 2016 #65

Love the graphic. bvf Apr 2016 #73

wouldn't surprise me :( PatrynXX Apr 2016 #95

rec your post n/t warrprayer Apr 2016 #101

No, it's the rules, as interpreted by Debbie. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #89

Shenanigans continue! highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2

"Shenanigans" is too cute and benign Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #18

The term dates to Boss Tweed. Accurate Enough. This is an Old School approach to voter fraud. leveymg Apr 2016 #27

I think Tammany Hall is a pretty good term... nxylas Apr 2016 #70

Agreed awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #63

Yeah ... James A. Baker the Turd ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #25

Who are they defrauding though? Are they just targeting Democrats? MADem Apr 2016 #50

If the answer to that question bvf Apr 2016 #71

I wonder how much fucking with the registrations cost, per state. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #3

GOP has been using that 'mail sent, undeliverable' trick for at least a decade. blm Apr 2016 #4

Please. This is the Democratic Party, not the GOP. The GOP does not care who votes in a primary. merrily Apr 2016 #8

This transfers to the general, merrily. Sorry you were unaware of this tactic. blm Apr 2016 #9

I'm sorry you feel you always have to have someone's back and you always have to go personal. merrily Apr 2016 #12

Yeah, I have ACCURACY's back. Sorry that offends you so much you'd even pretend GOP blm Apr 2016 #43

Seriously - you are pouting about being Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #64

Not only pouting, but imagining. I had nothing to do with that block. merrily Apr 2016 #69

LOL - HRC group booted me last year. Sanders group booted me last week for EXACT same blm Apr 2016 #75

Ditto... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #121

You are mistaken. I am not a host of the Bernie Group and I have never alerted on you. merrily Apr 2016 #67

I know who blocked me, but, your constant, wrongheaded accusations blm Apr 2016 #78

You are mistaken again. AS MY PRIOR POST STATED you were alerted on because you had been observed merrily Apr 2016 #88

Hopeless. Enjoy your intransigence without me caring about your carelessness. blm Apr 2016 #90

Unintentional irony. merrily Apr 2016 #91

Ladies please! It's time to back away from the keyboard, close your eyes and focus on breathing. hedda_foil Apr 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2016 #66

heheh…... blm Apr 2016 #79

... and you have some serious issues... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #122

You're wrong. I clearly stated caging is being done. merrily wants it to be seen as Dems blm Apr 2016 #123

Sorry, blm.... but you've mis-labeled some of us here... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #125

If you've seen evidence of Democrats caging other Democrats share it. Because THAT blm Apr 2016 #126

I am not in an officiating county position to see caging... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #127

Sending mail to voters and using lack of response to purge them from voter rolls blm Apr 2016 #128

True enough, but if the OP was registered Democrat, Amimnoch Apr 2016 #72

It is possible that they know who is supporting Hillary All in it together Apr 2016 #86

On that we agree. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #87

That's highly unlikely (like 99.9%) and why do it in a state where they expect to win. blm Apr 2016 #93

Clarification . . . markpkessinger Apr 2016 #47

Seriously, mark, they've pulled that stunt for over a decade on Dem voters. blm Apr 2016 #48

So if the post office screws up, you are screwed? nt MADem Apr 2016 #51

That's just damned undemocratic. procon Apr 2016 #6

Exactly!! GOP has found a way around all that. blm Apr 2016 #11

I would add one other way where it should change. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #20

Driver's license change shouldn't auto update voter registration unc70 Apr 2016 #45

That is the key.... implemented properly. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #46

Or would that have been the desired result unc70 Apr 2016 #49

A friend of mercuryblues Apr 2016 #7

Untrue. People on the inactive list only have to show ID. You need to send this to your friend: merrily Apr 2016 #10

That may be true in MA . . . markpkessinger Apr 2016 #15

? I was responding to a post about voting in Massachusetts, not to your OP. merrily Apr 2016 #16

I get that -- was just pointing out the difference n/t markpkessinger Apr 2016 #17

Thanks, but I am aware of the difference. merrily Apr 2016 #29

Wasn't pointing it out so much for your sake, as for the sake of anyone who might be reading . . . markpkessinger Apr 2016 #31

No worries. merrily Apr 2016 #33

Not true in Florida RockaFowler Apr 2016 #52

Every state is different. His or her friend is in Massachusetts, so MA is what is relevant. merrily Apr 2016 #53

I'm in Massachusetts and this happened to me on super tuesday tymorial Apr 2016 #21

Please see Reply # 10 merrily Apr 2016 #34

here we go again... nt retrowire Apr 2016 #13

Just tell them you plan to vote for Hillary. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #14

Might not be a bad idea to pick up a Hillary button to wear. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #19

Yep! Helen Borg Apr 2016 #23

You have to remove buttons and other candidate swag before entering your polling place. JimDandy Apr 2016 #32

I can't - my 840high Apr 2016 #37

Stick your Bernie button in your pocket and it will cancel it out. Truth always wins out. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #42

very much begging the question. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #74

Yes, they do benefit Hillary. They benefit candidates on the right. eomer Apr 2016 #76

whatever. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #77

Caging ONLY BENEFITS the GOP in the general election. blm Apr 2016 #82

Caging can be designed in such a way as to benefit any candidate. eomer Apr 2016 #83

That would be akin to cutting off one's nose to spite their face. Who plans to win the primary blm Apr 2016 #84

No, it would be easy to design it to work for the primary without hurting in the general. eomer Apr 2016 #92

Why in a state where you fully expect to win the primary, then? blm Apr 2016 #99

Because what matters is how many delegates you get, not whether you win the state. eomer Apr 2016 #110

I think you're reaching for something that isn't there. There's proof GOP does this, blm Apr 2016 #115

Not my hope, it is just how it feels to me. Or maybe more how it smells. eomer Apr 2016 #116

When you go vote you should also have them show you your voting history. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #22

In Penn we have no capacity at the polling place to pull up such a history. Divernan Apr 2016 #56

That information would not generally be at the polling location. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #58

Gotcha. PA doesn't even provide that option. Divernan Apr 2016 #59

Our county in Indiana went with electronic poll books (I-Pads) LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #112

The polling places are not hooked up to any central office dlwickham Apr 2016 #105

I had this issue in 2004. Since then I always confirm my status 4 - 6 weeks in advance. 33taw Apr 2016 #24

That's around the time we first heard of GOP's tactic of sending postcards to Dem addresses blm Apr 2016 #44

It's a good thing you checked. Maybe have all your friends check too. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #26

The most likely cause of voter affiliation switching is the integration of new electronic voter Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #28

electronics in voting is the danger questionseverything Apr 2016 #96

Is the NYC Board of Elections run by Republicans? ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #30

What you are describing is slightly different . . . markpkessinger Apr 2016 #40

Here We Go Again billhicks76 Apr 2016 #35

We get voting notifications before EVERY kind of election... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #39

Not in Pennsylvania. Divernan Apr 2016 #61

Voter "caging": mail sent to a voter is returned as undeliverable: Voter stricken from rolls. seafan Apr 2016 #54

You should turn this into an OP and post as a public service announcement in GD-P. blm Apr 2016 #85

It's another dirty trick. I'm curious about the bullshit that went on in Ohio and Illinois. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #55

Caging has become a standard vote suppression action against Dem voters. It's done in advance blm Apr 2016 #81

I really don't like this CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #60

thanks for posting your experience! leftcoastmountains Apr 2016 #62

I was caged in Texas BainsBane Apr 2016 #68

I didn't realize it started that early. Had to be an early Rove tactic. blm Apr 2016 #80

I expect it's been going on far longer than that BainsBane Apr 2016 #98

No doubt, this will be front page on the NYT to help everyone. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #94

The exact same thing happened to me in NC nyabingi Apr 2016 #97

markpk, in the great state of NY saidsimplesimon Apr 2016 #100

Er...your point? stopbush Apr 2016 #102

Good Lord. sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #109

How is checking your voter status every four years "constantly" checking your status? stopbush Apr 2016 #111

I believe your position sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #113

You wrote: "There's very likely a nefarious plot here." stopbush Apr 2016 #114

Voting is not a privilige. sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #117

Of course it's a privilege, because it can be taken away. stopbush Apr 2016 #118

Hardly. sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #119

Since the eighties Madmiddle Apr 2016 #103

An INFURIATING update! markpkessinger Apr 2016 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #106

It sounds like you've sulphurdunn Apr 2016 #107

I am not clear as to what exactly constitutes "two consecutive federal elections." StevieM Apr 2016 #108

A Federal Election is an election in which Federal office candidates are running... brooklynite Apr 2016 #120

Thanks for explaining that. I think it is crazy that someone who last voted in 2010 StevieM Apr 2016 #124