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BumRushDaShow

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17. Having worked in a civil service job for 30+ years (feds) before I retired
Sat Jan 21, 2023, 11:03 AM
Jan 2023

many of the federal PDs (Position Descriptions) will say "4-year degree or equivalent experience" meaning that you might have someone who has a 2- year associate's degree in some field and then perhaps 10 years of work experience that also included periodic and/or annual training for various certifications, etc.

What this does is allow for entry level hires without 4-year degrees who can then, if they choose, advance their career to a higher level position/pay scale upon completion of one.

During my own work career including as a supervisor, I don't remember how many I have mentored over the years who had no degree but who saw a position they enjoyed (and often were already doing most of the work for) but were not paid commensurate because of the lack of the "degree".

So pathways were created (often with subsidies and other accommodations) for that employee to get additional educational credits, usually enough to confer a degree with an approved plan.

Many Community Colleges and other higher learning institutions that confer degrees, actually convert "work experience" into credits that are applicable towards an associate's, bachelors, or even masters degree. I know I did similar with getting a master's certificate in project management and had I decided to take all the certification exams and another year's worth of courses, could have actually done it as a full masters thing.

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I think results on this will be mixed bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #1
A degree is desirable but skills and experience count too. brush Jan 2023 #4
Excellent! Faux pas Jan 2023 #2
Can I work as an electrician or plumber.... TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #3
Most Companies Allow Job Experience to Meet Any Degree Requirement Indykatie Jan 2023 #5
It's mostly clerical jobs they're focusing on FakeNoose Jan 2023 #6
You don't need a college degree to be an electrician... brush Jan 2023 #7
But a lot of the trade jobs can be pretty exclusive.... TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #13
True, but not a college degree, which is often more expensive to get. brush Jan 2023 #16
Yeah, that might not be the best way forward. Sorry. dem4decades Jan 2023 #8
The jobs that this covers are primarily clerical and administrative . . . markpkessinger Jan 2023 #10
92% of all State jobs... TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #14
I think it sounds Fair.. the best Cha Jan 2023 #9
so why should the state pay for colleges and universities... mike_c Jan 2023 #11
Colleges and Universities will go back to being for the Rich TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #15
I think it's a terrible idea. Dumbing down of america continues. jimfields33 Jan 2023 #12
Having worked in a civil service job for 30+ years (feds) before I retired BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #17
Agreed - the entry level jobs don't need a 4-year degree, it shouldn't be a barrier FakeNoose Jan 2023 #18
Having worked in a federal health agency myself and as a supervisor BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #19
Yes of course, I wasn't thinking of the medical health field FakeNoose Jan 2023 #20
Thanks to computers BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #21
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