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Mon Sep 15, 2025, 10:29 AM Sep 15

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Alexandria pastor’s Charlie Kirk comments spark national debate

By Ryan Belmore
Published September 15, 2025 at 9:41AM


The Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley delivers his Sunday sermon at Alfred Street Baptist Church in Alexandria, Va., on Sept. 15, 2025. During the sermon, Wesley criticized the decision to fly flags at half-staff for slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk, calling Kirk "an unapologetic racist." (Screenshot via YouTube)

The Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley, senior pastor of Alfred Street Baptist Church in Alexandria, has found himself at the center of a national controversy after comments he made about slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk went viral on social media over the weekend.

Wesley’s remarks, delivered during a Sunday sermon at the historic Alexandria church, were shared widely after journalist Don Lemon posted a clip on Instagram. Wesley’s criticism came on the same day hundreds gathered at the nearby Kennedy Center for a prayer vigil honoring Kirk. The pastor argued that Kirk should not be honored with flags at half-staff despite his assassination, calling the activist “an unapologetic racist” who spent his life “sowing seeds of division and hate.”

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During his sermon, Wesley made clear his position on the national honor being bestowed upon Kirk, who was shot and killed on Wednesday while speaking at Utah Valley University.... “Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated,” Wesley said. “But I am overwhelmed seeing the flags of the United States of America at half-staff, calling this nation to honor and venerate a man who was an unapologetic racist and spent all of his life sowing seeds of division and hate into this land.”

The pastor’s criticism extended beyond the flag controversy, addressing broader questions about how public figures should be remembered after death. ...“I am sorry, but there’s nowhere in the Bible where we are taught to honor evil,” Wesley continued. “And how you die does not redeem how you lived. You do not become a hero in your death when you are a weapon of the enemy in your life.” ... Wesley acknowledged he could “abhor the violence” that took Kirk’s life while maintaining he didn’t “have to celebrate how you chose to live.”

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Ryan Belmore
Ryan Belmore is the Publisher of ALXnow.com. An award-winning publisher, editor, and journalist, he has led local independent online newsrooms since 2012. Originally from Rhode Island, he and his wife, Jen, moved to Alexandria in 2021. Since then, he has served on the City of Alexandria's Commission for the Arts and Board of Zoning Appeals. Send news, tips, information, and feedback to news@alxnow.com.

Here's a little of what he said:

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Benjamin Dreyer
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“How you die does not redeem how you lived.”

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This was a word AND he cussed 😂

September 14, 2025 at 9:38 PM

“How you die does not redeem how you lived.”

Benjamin Dreyer (@bcdreyer.social) 2025-09-15T01:38:34.577Z

Mon Sep 15, 2025: "How you die does not redeem how you lived."
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MAGAs gonna start a war with no_hypocrisy Sep 15 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author DUMember24 Sep 15 #2
Historically, Black churches were often the only "safe space" where Black communities could convene and debate. eppur_se_muova Sep 15 #5
Today is the 62nd Anniversary of the bombing of the 16th Street Church in Birmingham AL neohippie Sep 15 #11
Thank you for your post duhneece Sep 15 #21
and let's be clear Charlie Kirk would applaud those bombings JT45242 Sep 15 #22
"Relatively" safe spaces, and obvious targets. eppur_se_muova Sep 15 #25
Sad but true. calimary Sep 15 #28
First question: No. Second question: No. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 16 #30
Make sure people know Kirk facts (racism, misogyny) whenever a maga pushes the hagiography of Kirk Bernardo de La Paz Sep 15 #3
You could quote a ten-page racist screed by Kirk... Orrex Sep 15 #7
Let them. People within earshot will know. Challenge the racist fanbois to prove the "context". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 15 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author eppur_se_muova Sep 15 #4
It is Kirk's Lying Gospel of Hate that should spark national outrage, not the honest words of this pastor. Midnight Writer Sep 15 #6
Just wait for the funeral. They're gonna try and convince the public he was a saint. Fil1957 Sep 15 #8
Pastor Wesley's commentary about Kirk was spot on...as he said, there is nothing in the Bible that iluvtennis Sep 15 #10
Charlie Kirk was indeed and unapologetic racist, based on his own words. Martin68 Sep 15 #12
"And how you die does not redeem how you lived..." harumph Sep 15 #13
The pastor is correct. Beacool Sep 15 #14
One of the best take downs of the dead stochastic terrorist yet. GoneOffShore Sep 15 #15
Show me where he lied JustAnotherGen Sep 15 #16
You notice the inflammatory headline Keepthesoulalive Sep 15 #18
As you sow, so shall you reap. appleannie1 Sep 15 #17
Charlie Kirk was an unapologetic racist .... prove me wrong. bsiebs Sep 15 #19
I see what you did there. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 16 #29
I feel especially sorry for the non-white-male service men and women ordered to show him these honors William Seger Sep 15 #20
What I have learned from history is that if you live long enough you get to see it repeat itself. twodogsbarking Sep 15 #23
I'm in trouble at work because Friday here was like a wake. And this in an outpatient medical clinic LT Barclay Sep 15 #24
What is there to debate? BeyondGeography Sep 15 #26
Pray for his soul. returnee Sep 15 #27
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