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37. Here's an interesting article by Mike Lofgren, a congressional staff member for 28 years
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:33 AM
Mar 2014

specializing in national security.


Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose. My analysis of this phenomenon is not an exposé of a secret, conspiratorial cabal; the state within a state is hiding mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day. Nor can this other government be accurately termed an “establishment.” All complex societies have an establishment, a social network committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. In terms of its scope, financial resources and sheer global reach, the American hybrid state, the Deep State, is in a class by itself. That said, it is neither omniscient nor invincible. The institution is not so much sinister (although it has highly sinister aspects) as it is relentlessly well entrenched. Far from being invincible, its failures, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, are routine enough that it is only the Deep State’s protectiveness towards its higher-ranking personnel that allows them to escape the consequences of their frequent ineptitude. [2]


Washington is the most important node of the Deep State that has taken over America, but it is not the only one. Invisible threads of money and ambition connect the town to other nodes. One is Wall Street, which supplies the cash that keeps the political machine quiescent and operating as a diversionary marionette theater. Should the politicians forget their lines and threaten the status quo, Wall Street floods the town with cash and lawyers to help the hired hands remember their own best interests. The executives of the financial giants even have de facto criminal immunity. On March 6, 2013, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Eric Holder stated the following: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if you do prosecute, if you do bring a criminal charge, it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy.” This, from the chief law enforcement officer of a justice system that has practically abolished the constitutional right to trial for poorer defendants charged with certain crimes. It is not too much to say that Wall Street may be the ultimate owner of the Deep State and its strategies, if for no other reason than that it has the money to reward government operatives with a second career that is lucrative beyond the dreams of avarice — certainly beyond the dreams of a salaried government employee. [3]

Petraeus and most of the avatars of the Deep State — the White House advisers who urged Obama not to impose compensation limits on Wall Street CEOs, the contractor-connected think tank experts who besought us to “stay the course” in Iraq, the economic gurus who perpetually demonstrate that globalization and deregulation are a blessing that makes us all better off in the long run — are careful to pretend that they have no ideology. Their preferred pose is that of the politically neutral technocrat offering well considered advice based on profound expertise. That is nonsense. They are deeply dyed in the hue of the official ideology of the governing class, an ideology that is neither specifically Democrat nor Republican. Domestically, whatever they might privately believe about essentially diversionary social issues such as abortion or gay marriage, they almost invariably believe in the “Washington Consensus”: financialization, outsourcing, privatization, deregulation and the commodifying of labor. Internationally, they espouse 21st-century “American Exceptionalism”: the right and duty of the United States to meddle in every region of the world with coercive diplomacy and boots on the ground and to ignore painfully won international norms of civilized behavior. To paraphrase what Sir John Harrington said more than 400 years ago about treason, now that the ideology of the Deep State has prospered, none dare call it ideology. [5] That is why describing torture with the word “torture” on broadcast television is treated less as political heresy than as an inexcusable lapse of Washington etiquette: Like smoking a cigarette on camera, these days it is simply “not done.”

7] Obama’s abrupt about-face suggests he may have been skeptical of military intervention in Syria all along, but only dropped that policy once Congress and Putin gave him the running room to do so. In 2009, he went ahead with the Afghanistan “surge” partly because General Petraeus’ public relations campaign and back-channel lobbying on the Hill for implementation of his pet military strategy pre-empted other options. These incidents raise the disturbing question of how much the democratically elected president — or any president — sets the policy of the national security state and how much the policy is set for him by the professional operatives of that state who engineer faits accomplis that force his hand.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/22075-anatomy-of-the-deep-state

So who the hell is running this country? newfie11 Mar 2014 #1
As DeepThroat said: ''Always follow the money.'' DeSwiss Mar 2014 #6
Your right newfie11 Mar 2014 #7
Totally agree with both of you. lark Mar 2014 #47
In a word- Titonwan Mar 2014 #10
Of course. Any of us who were present back then knew what a threat the CIA was but we got out of jwirr Mar 2014 #59
George HW Bush in charge of the CIA in 1963? HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #63
So when was he head of the CIA? And are you saying he had no control over it's future actions? jwirr Mar 2014 #64
jan76-jan77. HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #85
That is exactly what I'd like to know. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #12
Well, what was Prescott Bush's intentions back in WW2 and post war? blm Mar 2014 #38
For those asking "Who", bvar22 Mar 2014 #60
The radical right wing shadow government. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #19
The Carlyle Group. I thought everyone knew. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #62
Russ Tice!!!!! NSA whistleblower @ blackmail billhicks76 Mar 2014 #76
Sybill Edmunds dotymed Mar 2014 #2
you know, there is a charter school here mopinko Mar 2014 #23
Pelosi's comments ... Scuba Mar 2014 #3
wow, there it is grasswire Mar 2014 #4
kick grasswire Mar 2014 #48
And one shoe dropped. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #5
Interesting excerpt - where can I find the source? erronis Mar 2014 #70
Here ya go. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #71
Thanks - so much to absorb! erronis Mar 2014 #82
Covert power is scary and the CIA uses that to their advantage siligut Mar 2014 #8
Are you still laughing when people say that President Obama A Simple Game Mar 2014 #21
He is perhaps "embraced" by the secret stuff. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #27
That also may be why he has the job he has and not because of the job he has. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #31
The secrets are on a need to know basis siligut Mar 2014 #34
No, we're still laughing that some people actually believe that a president has complete control blm Mar 2014 #39
So you don't think President Obama has embraced all of the, often unnecessary, secrecy? n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #42
LOL - I think he had no clue how deep it went when he entered office, and is still being kept blm Mar 2014 #52
As you don't think the smartest President in history has a clue and that A Simple Game Mar 2014 #56
That's not what I said, is it? Build your strawmen for those willing to play blm Mar 2014 #61
Did you forget what you posted in #52? A Simple Game Mar 2014 #66
What part of 'is still being kept from the extent of it' did you fail to comprehend? blm Mar 2014 #67
Ok, you're right, I just don't understand. I do know that because I'm a liberal A Simple Game Mar 2014 #69
Mebbe an 'Operation Valkyrie' is in order Titonwan Mar 2014 #9
So our democracy is over? BlueJac Mar 2014 #11
Since 1963! pocoloco Mar 2014 #29
Assuming the NSA and CIA work on behalf of corporate interests SHRED Mar 2014 #13
It is the very definition of Fascism. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #20
Prescott Bush supported fascism and was branded a traitor. lark Mar 2014 #49
The media always paints the Bush clan as harmless and benevolent. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #78
Totally agree with both of you. lark Mar 2014 #81
This may explain why Clinton bombed Iraq during the impeachment proceedings KurtNYC Mar 2014 #14
For 4 decades now the most powerful part of CIA,NSA, FBI are those units loyal ONLY to BushInc. blm Mar 2014 #15
A good argument could made that you are Titonwan Mar 2014 #17
Correct 90-percent Mar 2014 #25
Cheney is a cog, a big one, but still a cog in BFEE. blm Mar 2014 #36
He was there to 'help' W with the deciding. nt siligut Mar 2014 #44
See, Obama should have known this and fired them all. lark Mar 2014 #51
As the quote reads: vlakitti Mar 2014 #58
You are hopelessly paranoid. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #28
; ) And 95% of the time history has a way of proving us to be right. blm Mar 2014 #35
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #16
Its worse than she has admitted Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #18
. snagglepuss Mar 2014 #30
Most of the anti-Snowden, Greenwald accounts here are CIA/NSA plants fbc Mar 2014 #22
What a spurious and completely unsubstantiated load of horseshit--and welcome to DU, comrade.... MADem Mar 2014 #40
Many of those accounts have been here for ages. JoeyT Mar 2014 #41
i will never forget a conversation with a congressional staffer mopinko Mar 2014 #24
Like experience here toby jo Mar 2014 #26
Um.... ok...... eggplant Mar 2014 #46
Warning sign: The People are fearing the government Blue Owl Mar 2014 #32
I'm not surprised that Congress is afraid of the information the CIA can produce on them. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #33
Here's an interesting article by Mike Lofgren, a congressional staff member for 28 years octoberlib Mar 2014 #37
Also an outstanding article! Octafish Mar 2014 #50
bookmark to read that article later nt grasswire Mar 2014 #55
Thank you for posting this. woo me with science Mar 2014 #83
K&R! nt Mnemosyne Mar 2014 #43
How can that be? Octafish Mar 2014 #45
K&R.... daleanime Mar 2014 #53
Should be the other way around. The CIA should fear Congress. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #54
There is a reason that JFK and Frank Church wanted to take Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #57
Duh, they don't want to be Kennedyed or Wellstoned. nt valerief Mar 2014 #65
11/22/63. Call me crazy! WinkyDink Mar 2014 #68
Did that come from the water is wet department? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #72
what business does pelosi have calling congress scared. SHE put impeaching Bush off the table. alp227 Mar 2014 #73
Too late. Last chance to expose BFEE was release of BCCI Report. We needed another candidate blm Mar 2014 #80
Shadow Government. The White House is little more than a false prop to give the Citizenry the IDEA blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #74
Sadly +1. Nt newfie11 Mar 2014 #79
K&R NealK Mar 2014 #75
The real prize in this nation is the national security apparatus. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #77
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