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lumberjack_jeff

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14. I think it's imperative that this group is fulfilling to its participants. Bystanders? Fuck 'em.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jun 2014

The group will always be unacceptable to some people, because there is a simplistic view of women's advocacy that sees actual bias against men to the be the correct reaction to perceived bias against women.

To "some people" the only acceptable function for liberal guys is as a feminism auxiliary. We are supposed to have no interests, desires, goals, aspirations or values in our own right, nor are we supposed to advocate for ourselves, because that would constitute whining about issues for which we should man up.

Oh, and by the way, while we're manning-up and suppressing our whining, we should stop using gendered language and reject rigid gender roles.

Seriously. Stop worrying about what they think. They are bigots and hypocrites. One of the virtues inherent in the male ideal is the predisposition to choose to either suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or take up arms against the sea of troubles.

Either is a perfectly valid choice, but the middle road whereupon we wring our hands, gnash our teeth and rend our garments about what we could possibly have done to earn such disapproval...?

I find myself uninterested in that path.

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Nothing can make this group acceptable to some people. JVS Jun 2014 #1
I think one of the things that's great here.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #2
Agreed on all points opiate69 Jun 2014 #3
Considering how little activity this group gets Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #4
I feel the small amount of activity is because of the vitriol. HuskiesHowls Jun 2014 #5
The vitriol is pervasive and verbally violent. n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #6
I think a lot of people have decided this group is unacceptable mokawanis Jun 2014 #7
The posts accusing you guys of being an MRA-fest are nearly all unjustified IMO. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #9
ANY unjustified accusation that someone is a member of a hate group should be a bannable offense stevenleser Jun 2014 #15
"Should it be about the place of the liberal man in today's society? Where we stand as a collective? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #8
I think this quote from the HoF is instructive Doctor_J Jun 2014 #10
I agree kjones Jun 2014 #11
That poster is actually a guy. And I don't always agree with him but he seems quite intelligent nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #13
I think it's imperative that this group is fulfilling to its participants. Bystanders? Fuck 'em. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #16
And all thread headers of this ongoing series should start with.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #17
We have determined that Itchy & Scratchy does not meet DU community standards. name not needed Jun 2014 #18
Who doesn't appreciate a nice outreach program? opiate69 Jun 2014 #20
Acceptable to men? GOLGO 13 Jun 2014 #19
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