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Debt Is (Mostly) Money We Owe to Ourselves [View all]
Below are two series, both expressed as percentages of GDP: total domestic nonfinancial debt (public plus private), and U.S. net foreign debt, as measured by the negative of the net international investment position:

What you can see here is that there has been a big rise in debt, with a much smaller move into net debtor status for America as a whole; for the most part, the extra debt is money we owe to ourselves.
And here are the same numbers, measured as changes from 1980, so that you can see that the great bulk of the rise in debt was not financed by foreign borrowing.

People think of debts role in the economy as if it were the same as what debt means for an individual: theres a lot of money you have to pay to someone else. But thats all wrong; the debt we create is basically money we owe to ourselves, and the burden it imposes does not involve a real transfer of resources.
Thats not to say that high debt cant cause problems it certainly can. But these are problems of distribution and incentives, not the burden of debt as is commonly understood. And as Dean says, talking about leaving a burden to our children is especially nonsensical; what we are leaving behind is promises that some of our children will pay money to other children, which is a very different kettle of fish.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/debt-is-mostly-money-we-owe-to-ourselves/

What you can see here is that there has been a big rise in debt, with a much smaller move into net debtor status for America as a whole; for the most part, the extra debt is money we owe to ourselves.
And here are the same numbers, measured as changes from 1980, so that you can see that the great bulk of the rise in debt was not financed by foreign borrowing.

People think of debts role in the economy as if it were the same as what debt means for an individual: theres a lot of money you have to pay to someone else. But thats all wrong; the debt we create is basically money we owe to ourselves, and the burden it imposes does not involve a real transfer of resources.
Thats not to say that high debt cant cause problems it certainly can. But these are problems of distribution and incentives, not the burden of debt as is commonly understood. And as Dean says, talking about leaving a burden to our children is especially nonsensical; what we are leaving behind is promises that some of our children will pay money to other children, which is a very different kettle of fish.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/debt-is-mostly-money-we-owe-to-ourselves/
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I own not one dime of government securities, which is how we finance the national debt.
mbperrin
Dec 2011
#2
The Federal Government does not have to obtain money (American dollars) from any one.
Sam1
Jan 2012
#6
Please cite the economist and formula that shows that government debt creates savings in the private
mbperrin
Jan 2012
#10
You have a degree in economics and have never heard (or studied) the chartalist perspective?
jtuck004
Jan 2012
#18
I see now. It's the rather old fashioned notion that money is meant to be a store of value.
mbperrin
Jan 2012
#19
If you have paid your payroll taxes -- your Social Security taxes -- your old-aged
JDPriestly
Jan 2012
#8