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'The buildings don't go away ... but the owners do': Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger warn that a storm is brewing in the US real estate market -- here's where they'll seek refuge [View all]
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‘The buildings don’t go away … but the owners do’: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger warn that a storm is brewing in the US real estate market — here’s where they'll seek refuge
Vishesh Raisinghani
Sat, October 21, 2023, 7:00 AM EDT· 3 min read
Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s business partner, has been growing increasingly worried about commercial real estate. He believes a storm is brewing in the sector that could engulf the banks and impact the broader market. … “The buildings don’t go away,” Buffett said at the May 2023 Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.A) shareholders meeting. “But the owners do,” Munger chimed in.
“I think that the hollowing out of the downtowns, in the United States and elsewhere in the world, is going to be significant and quite unpleasant,” Munger said, adding he believes that the U.S. economy will weather the storm eventually but that commercial real estate will eventually “involve a different set of owners.”
Munger’s bear case
Munger and Buffett’s concerns could be based on the fact that foot traffic near stores in metropolitan areas is 10% to 20% below pre-pandemic levels while office attendance is 30% lower than before COVID, according to a recent report by the consulting firm McKinsey. The report predicts that, because of these trends and other factors, demand for office space could still be almost 20% lower in 2030 than it was in 2019.
That’s bad news for commercial landlords. It’s worse news for their lenders. Munger said in an April interview with the Financial Times that the U.S. banking sector was “full of … bad loans” in the commercial real estate sector. Eventually, higher interest rates, lower rental income and resulting lower property values could send some of these loans underwater — meaning that the outstanding balance will be greater than the value of the underlying properties.
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‘The buildings don’t go away … but the owners do’: Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger warn that a storm is brewing in the US real estate market — here’s where they'll seek refuge
Vishesh Raisinghani
Sat, October 21, 2023, 7:00 AM EDT· 3 min read
Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s business partner, has been growing increasingly worried about commercial real estate. He believes a storm is brewing in the sector that could engulf the banks and impact the broader market. … “The buildings don’t go away,” Buffett said at the May 2023 Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE:BRK.A) shareholders meeting. “But the owners do,” Munger chimed in.
“I think that the hollowing out of the downtowns, in the United States and elsewhere in the world, is going to be significant and quite unpleasant,” Munger said, adding he believes that the U.S. economy will weather the storm eventually but that commercial real estate will eventually “involve a different set of owners.”
Munger’s bear case
Munger and Buffett’s concerns could be based on the fact that foot traffic near stores in metropolitan areas is 10% to 20% below pre-pandemic levels while office attendance is 30% lower than before COVID, according to a recent report by the consulting firm McKinsey. The report predicts that, because of these trends and other factors, demand for office space could still be almost 20% lower in 2030 than it was in 2019.
That’s bad news for commercial landlords. It’s worse news for their lenders. Munger said in an April interview with the Financial Times that the U.S. banking sector was “full of … bad loans” in the commercial real estate sector. Eventually, higher interest rates, lower rental income and resulting lower property values could send some of these loans underwater — meaning that the outstanding balance will be greater than the value of the underlying properties.
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'The buildings don't go away ... but the owners do': Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger warn that a storm is brewing in the US real estate market -- here's where they'll seek refuge [View all]
mahatmakanejeeves
Oct 2023
OP
Interesting. And w/ the Internet, markets have somewhat shifted their focus, to support their
SWBTATTReg
Oct 2023
#1
Geez. How many times do these people need to be told to convert these buildings into homes/apts?
LonePirate
Oct 2023
#4
It's certainly not impossible and an occupied building brings in more revenue than an empty one.
LonePirate
Oct 2023
#8
They can adapt or go out of business. It's economic darwinism and they would rather complain than act.
LonePirate
Oct 2023
#18
Because most office buildings don't lend themselves to easy conversion to apartments.
marybourg
Oct 2023
#9
I don't think people generally cash in their investments abruptly the day they retire.
marybourg
Oct 2023
#24
California just enacted a law allowing the upzoning of strip malls to residential.
usonian
Oct 2023
#21
Nice how Yahoo Finance recycles May's news as current. How many times is this?
bucolic_frolic
Oct 2023
#5
'm putting my money into Trump's properties. They're undervalued by a lot! Pfffttt!
Wonder Why
Oct 2023
#16