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NNadir

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31. You will often be driving a car powered by natural gas after exergy destruction.
Fri May 9, 2025, 09:49 AM
May 2025

If one monitors the CAISO website as I often do, or simply opens the data pages of the California Energy Commission, one can learn about electricity in the State. My view is that it's unnecessarily ugly.

I lived in California for many years, and if I have an opinion of PSGE it is one of sympathy for operating in a very difficult culture.

People want to complain about the transmission line fires after making sure that more wires than required in a sane system are laced to link redundant and unreliable systems, the most egregious being solar and wind industrial parks carved out of virgin wilderness. I will not applaud chainsaws taken to Joshua Trees to build solar plants advertised as "green," for just one example.

Solar PV energy is not sustainable precisely because of its low energy to mass ratio, and surface area requirements. That trillion dollar fantasy has played out with the result that the planet is in flames.

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I think your gf is right on! CaliforniaPeggy May 2025 #1
I just bought a 12 year old hybrid (Prius) Ms. Toad May 2025 #2
☝️ CentralMass May 2025 #4
I'm thinking $19000 17 years ago isn't that much less than $40000 now. paulkienitz May 2025 #10
It's around $28,550 in today's dollars. n/t Ms. Toad May 2025 #16
Inflation calculators always underestimate paulkienitz May 2025 #20
Well, my income in 2008 Ms. Toad May 2025 #25
Hard to comment, not knowing your financial situation, cashflow or if you own your own place. My wife and I share a Doodley May 2025 #3
Listen to her! LittleGirl May 2025 #5
They told us factory orders take three months currently. paulkienitz May 2025 #14
it wasn't the rechargeable batteries was it? LittleGirl May 2025 #17
It was the big battery that failed for her. paulkienitz May 2025 #21
That's the first I've heard LittleGirl May 2025 #27
If you're getting one, this seems to be the time to do it, before the tariffs kick in. Low price for an EV, good range, NBachers May 2025 #6
We felt that way driving a Prius LittleGirl May 2025 #18
That model has great reviews IronLionZion May 2025 #7
Not many road trips in our lives nowadays paulkienitz May 2025 #11
Isnt ford running employee pricing now? Figarosmom May 2025 #8
Yeah we got that offer paulkienitz May 2025 #12
Consider No Money Down Lease modrepub May 2025 #9
Yeah, just signed up for that forum. paulkienitz May 2025 #13
If your issue is which kind of car is least odious for climate... NNadir May 2025 #15
I'm in California where the grid has plenty of solar, paulkienitz May 2025 #22
I'm not a fan of California's grid, solar energy, and definitely not natural gas. NNadir May 2025 #23
No. paulkienitz May 2025 #29
You will often be driving a car powered by natural gas after exergy destruction. NNadir May 2025 #31
Solar is no fantasy. paulkienitz May 2025 #32
I'm with your best friend on this one. flvegan May 2025 #19
we looked at used prices paulkienitz May 2025 #24
cheaper to get a new GF. Groundhawg May 2025 #26
GF, GT, what's the difference? NBachers May 2025 #28
we bought it... paulkienitz May 2025 #30
WE BOUGHT IT... FOR TWO DAYS. paulkienitz May 2025 #33
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