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redqueen

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18. The stuff about confusion about how parts of one's identity relate to each other...

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:33 AM

Feb 2012

yeah, not so sure about that. FWIW I'm bi-racial, grew up poor but I think I'm finally now able to qualify as 'lower middle class', and obviously a woman.

I understand the kyriarchy and think it's an important subject, but I have a problem with attempting to tackle all the issues of privilege everywhere while operating from under the banner of feminism. It seems to make more sense to me to have feminism be one part of that larger movement.

If feminism is to be a truly liberatory politics seeking the freedom of all oppressed people...

Is it? When was that decided? I thought it was more about issues of sex, and freeing people from sex-related oppression.

It (intersectionality) helps us come up with better feminist politics that seek the emancipation of all people – not just an élite minority of privileged women.

Does it? Can anyone provide any examples of said better feminist politics? I do see the potential for better politics (not just feminist politics, obviously, because we're talking about all oppressed people now, not just women), but I haven't seen any manifestation of this.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 OP

I'm glad you reposted this...I think it is a good article to make all of us reflect maddezmom Feb 2012 #1

And how for some of us, our identity is tied up with other things. n/t justiceischeap Feb 2012 #2

of course. maddezmom Feb 2012 #3

No kidding. That post was gibberish. Not much help to girls and gals. nt DCKit Feb 2012 #17

Of course it is, and that is natural. boston bean Feb 2012 #29

It's a really good article. This following bit stood out for me... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #4

+1. n/t TriMera Feb 2012 #5

```````` Vanje Feb 2012 #8

That whole article lays things out so well. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #6

I know. I really got it when I read it... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #7

isn't it interesting though iverglas Feb 2012 #19

egypt today. the womens fight to "free" the man..... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #21

My goodness, such powerful lines: justiceischeap Feb 2012 #9

A million years ago in college we got to read Audre Lorde Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #10

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #11

This is the Feminists group. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #13

Better move along then. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #14

thank you starry. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #15

Maybe this isn't the place for you. n/t laconicsax Feb 2012 #16

I don't know, but I learn more here by reading MineralMan Feb 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #22

Maybe that should tell you something about whether things have changed in that time. n/t laconicsax Feb 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #24

In that case, as I've stated, this may not be the place for you. laconicsax Feb 2012 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #26

You're welcome to post here, provided you observe the SOP. laconicsax Feb 2012 #27

this poster has no intention to observe the SOP and has basically told us so. boston bean Feb 2012 #28

It's just a name. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #30

I get it's just a name boston bean Feb 2012 #31

because we are told we talk too much about gender.... anyway. seabeyond Feb 2012 #32

what stopped you? boston bean Feb 2012 #33

do you think the poster should have been blocked, seeing how you are a regular seabeyond Feb 2012 #34

yes, i do think he should have been blocked. boston bean Feb 2012 #35

that would be what the wimpy little SOP that we have says, you are right. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #36

seemed like a no brainer to me. nt boston bean Feb 2012 #37

I was hoping for the result we got. laconicsax Feb 2012 #38

he left cause a regular feminist member was appalled we hadnt kicked him out yet and she said it out seabeyond Feb 2012 #39

The stuff about confusion about how parts of one's identity relate to each other... redqueen Feb 2012 #18