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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
19. isn't it interesting though
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 01:12 PM
Feb 2012

how it is FEMINISM that is supposed to be this "truly liberatory politics seeking the freedom of all oppressed people".

I'm waiting for all the other supposedly progressive -ologies to take on equal responsibility for liberating women, and make equal acknowledgements of how their past and also present politics fail to do that ...

Women have battled the black power movement in the US, trade unions, the left generally ... over and over and over again throughout decades of history, seeking to have women's own disadvantages and interests recognized and addressed, both in the group's efforts and within the groups themselves. Women themselves took the lead in the struggle for other people's equality: the anti-slavery movement, efforts on behalf of children (child labour, child sexual exploitation ...). And always it was the back of the bus for women, if not thrown under it.

When women stood up and started fighting for OURSELVES for a change, we were the bad guys for not including every single other form of oppression in our battle.

How come?

I'm a working-class kid. Frankly, my class has hindered my success in life, and affected my self-image, considerably more than my sex. But my sex is why I was a victim of sexual violence. Women in the 1% are victims of sexual violence too.

Why is it that when women stood up and fought for themselves, against the disadvantages and oppression that all women share, after all the history of putting themselves second and being put second (if that) by every other disadvantaged group, women, feminists, need to be maligned for not organizing the great big fight against everything wrong with society everywhere?

Forgive me if I just get a taste of the same old same old when I hear that song.

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I'm glad you reposted this...I think it is a good article to make all of us reflect maddezmom Feb 2012 #1
And how for some of us, our identity is tied up with other things. n/t justiceischeap Feb 2012 #2
of course. maddezmom Feb 2012 #3
No kidding. That post was gibberish. Not much help to girls and gals. nt DCKit Feb 2012 #17
Of course it is, and that is natural. boston bean Feb 2012 #29
It's a really good article. This following bit stood out for me... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #4
+1. n/t TriMera Feb 2012 #5
```````` Vanje Feb 2012 #8
That whole article lays things out so well. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #6
I know. I really got it when I read it... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #7
isn't it interesting though iverglas Feb 2012 #19
egypt today. the womens fight to "free" the man..... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #21
My goodness, such powerful lines: justiceischeap Feb 2012 #9
A million years ago in college we got to read Audre Lorde Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #11
This is the Feminists group. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #13
Better move along then. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #14
thank you starry. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #15
Maybe this isn't the place for you. n/t laconicsax Feb 2012 #16
I don't know, but I learn more here by reading MineralMan Feb 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #22
Maybe that should tell you something about whether things have changed in that time. n/t laconicsax Feb 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #24
In that case, as I've stated, this may not be the place for you. laconicsax Feb 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author mistertrickster Feb 2012 #26
You're welcome to post here, provided you observe the SOP. laconicsax Feb 2012 #27
this poster has no intention to observe the SOP and has basically told us so. boston bean Feb 2012 #28
It's just a name. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #30
I get it's just a name boston bean Feb 2012 #31
because we are told we talk too much about gender.... anyway. seabeyond Feb 2012 #32
what stopped you? boston bean Feb 2012 #33
do you think the poster should have been blocked, seeing how you are a regular seabeyond Feb 2012 #34
yes, i do think he should have been blocked. boston bean Feb 2012 #35
that would be what the wimpy little SOP that we have says, you are right. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #36
seemed like a no brainer to me. nt boston bean Feb 2012 #37
I was hoping for the result we got. laconicsax Feb 2012 #38
he left cause a regular feminist member was appalled we hadnt kicked him out yet and she said it out seabeyond Feb 2012 #39
The stuff about confusion about how parts of one's identity relate to each other... redqueen Feb 2012 #18
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