Feminists

I made the comment because I did not distinguish between the "ownership glare" and the "wow, she is pretty glance." From reading the thread, I thought the two were one. So I thought normal behavior was having additional stuff attached to it. My ignorance of the situation caused a communication breakdown.

"at what point do we condition our gender to say, women are to be looked at and men are to do the looking."

I am an English/Communication major, so I say it is in our language. Words like "mankind" is part of it, but I think there is more too.

Consider how we talk about the Obama family here on: Barack is a chess master and community organizer, the girls are cute, and Michele is beautiful. We talk about the man's accomplishments, and the women's appearance. It is not malicious, but it is there. Palin's appearance was mentioned on DU and television significantly more than McCain's, Barack Obama's, or Biden's appearance, even though they were in the same race. Barack Obama is a handsome guy, but this was rarely mentioned.

What gender is a dumb blonde? I made the following comment in a thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=115687

The title of the thread is: Oh GAG! Who's the moran blonde lady on the overnight CNN coverage? I noticed a pattern in our language, and the thread creator gave me a snarky reply because he or she did not want to be viewed as sexist. I don't begrudge the thread creator for that, but the language is still there.

at what point do men own the right of a womans look and it is her job to present that to man.

At the point she is currently working as a fashion model, actress, etc., but not during other times.

"it is like i grew up being told, by both genders, a womans body is a beautiful thing, not so much a mans body. that is why you see women naked everywhere and why you dont see the naked man."

Exactly. Magazines do communicate behavior.

"where and why did we decide the male body was nothing to look at and male appearance doesnt matter, and women didnt look at men, like men did women."

Good question. I have no idea.

"remember back to this....." Most men are drawn to women." "It is as simple as that.". i hear it so often, so very often and the be all, end all answer to any discussion."

Most people don't want to feel bad for noticing, but this thread is not just about noticing. I think it is a communication breakdown.

"but give me a well structured male body that shows all, in its excitement (ya, i prefer that look), and i am all over it."

OK...