Civil Liberties

Jim Lane

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17. Your characterization of the OP is indefensible.

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:03 AM

Feb 2015

What the OP actually said:

I agree with Paul. This may be the only area of agreement with him. There are so many other areas of disagreement between us, I certainly would not vote for him. But I applaud his position here.

What you wrote:

And when DUers champion Rand Paul because they think he shares their views for some noble cause, I know this place has become something I don't recognize anymore.

The OP shouldn't even have needed to say that he disagreed with Rand Paul on so many other things. What's "fucking ridiculous" to my mind is that, even when the OP bent over backward to point that out, someone comes along and bashes him for allegedly championing Rand Paul.

You know, there are issues on which right-wingers disagree with each other. Immigration is one. As another example, we may well see wingnuts on both sides of the TPP/fast-track vote. They can't all be wrong. More generally, DUers can agree with a particular issue position without thereby "championing" a politician who articulated it.

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For once I agree with Rand Paul. I also don't think Loretta Lynch should be Attorney General [View all] danriker Feb 2015 OP

She sounds like a Republican. GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #1

her job will be to implement the policies and views of barack obama nt msongs Feb 2015 #10

I will never support a drug warrior for exective office in the Justice Dept.... mike_c Feb 2015 #2

Why? progressoid Feb 2015 #3

corporatist lawyer jimruymen Feb 2015 #4

She sounds like another of Pres Obama's disappointing appointees. Not a progressive rhett o rick Feb 2015 #5

Nope. Hell, even his Supreme Court nominees voted to allow wage theft by Amazon. Scuba Feb 2015 #9

I saw that. Erg! nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #14

No, they recognized that Congress had voted to allow it. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #15

Their job is to overrule Congress if appropriate. That's a big part of what the SCOTUS is for. Scuba Feb 2015 #16

Only in cases of violations of the Constitution. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #18

Exactly. Are you arguing that the law allowing wage theft is Constitutional? Scuba Feb 2015 #19

Are you arguing that the Constitution requires overtime pay? Jim Lane Feb 2015 #20

Work without pay sure sounds like "involuntary servitude", but maybe that's just me. Scuba Feb 2015 #21

Please alert Skinner that MIRT is a violation of the Thirteenth Amendment. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #22

Your MiRT example is wholly inapposite. merrily Feb 2015 #28

the fact that she reached office under our current system of government.... Adam051188 Feb 2015 #6

I thought class wars began thousands of years ago, and almost always with government being of the merrily Feb 2015 #29

touche Adam051188 Feb 2015 #31

I agree. I don't like this choice for Attorney General mountain grammy Feb 2015 #7

Next, you'll be getting a "Greenwald-Snowden '16" tattoo on your arm. Fuddnik Feb 2015 #8

Been there, done that. project_bluebook Feb 2015 #11

Paulist have taken over ! geeez Cryptoad Feb 2015 #12

I don't support legalization of marijuana, either, unless you release ALL black and brown men Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #13

Your characterization of the OP is indefensible. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #17

I don't give a fuck about Rand Paul or what he thinks. As long as he's Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #23

"Case closed!" Not really, you're using a associational and/or genetic fallacy friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #24

There is nothing you can tell me, no article you can post, or write that would EVER lead me to Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #25

Pointing out that a racist is correct on *one* subject isn't giving them a character reference friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #32

Good examples. I remember making the same point about NAFTA. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #30

If Paul said that 2+2=4, those who pointed out that he was correct in that instance would be... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #33

Our interlocutor seems bent on avoiding actually discussing what Riker brought up friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #34

I DON'T SUPPORT RACISTS!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #26

ITA on releasing and wiping clean JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #27