Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Questions the left won't discuss about gun control, but should - and soon. [View all]EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Rights do exist to benefit society, after all the point of the constitution was to make a nation, not create personal freedom that could destroy a nation... the FFs weren't anarchists...
As for no one saying "arm everyone" - after every popular shooting the pro-gun side trots out the same argument, "if there'd been more guns someone would've shot the gunman, but the left is against guns, so more people had to die". You can say that, "arm everyone" is a straw man, but it's just hyperbole to make a point; the only solution put forward by the pro-gun side is more guns. Which is laughable, and which is shown to cause more gun violence, not less.
I would point out that, when given the chance, you also offer no solutions, just attack gun control proponents. And that's typical.
As for coming after guns, yes, that's pretty much the only logical solution, but don't worry Americans are way to brainwashed to ever actually come after any guns... your arsenal is safe. At least until the US actually shifts so far left through demographics that the majority changes it's opinion on what "freedom" means... that's gonna happen, but not for years and years.
When I said compromise I meant working with gun control people to craft a solution that you can both live with. Right now you give up nothing, and the country pays with it's blood. We give up a LOT for you to have guns... 10K people's lives a year for starters, and having to deal with endless extra layers of security, and having our kids live through the bloodbath in the news and on tv...
So pretending the majority that DON'T own guns haven't been compromising for years is a joke.
Now it's your turn to give up something... not your life, like the 3000 kids a year murdered with guns, but a little bit of your freedom to play with your toys...
That's compromise.
The existing laws are NOWHERE near strong enough. And the right has repeatedly gutted any attempt to make them meaningful. REAL gun control would have to be national, and would have to actually do something about the hundreds of millions of guns on the street, and the 10s of millions more headed there.
But like I said, don't worry, the pro-gun side is winning... the bloodbath will continue unabated.. if anything now is the perfect time to invest in Hilenbrand Inc. They are the nations largest coffin manufacturer and business is booming...
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