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PoliticAverse

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Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:47 PM Oct 2015

Amish man sues to buy firearm without photo ID in gun rights, religious freedom lawsuit [View all]

Lately, Americans have argued both about their right to bear arms and whether the free exercise of religion allows businesses and state officials to claim exemptions from requirements that conflict with their religious beliefs. It’s not everyday, however, that the two issues, guns and religion, wind up together in a single case.

In a suit that brings together the Second Amendment and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), an Amish man filed a federal lawsuit in Pennsylvania last week because he wants to buy a gun without the required photo ID — and because getting that photo ID would violate his religious beliefs.

Andrew Hertzler, according to the suit, is from Lancaster County, Pa., and is an “active and practicing” member of the community; his “parents, grandparents, and siblings are all active and practicing Amish”; and he “has a sincerely held religious belief that prevents him from knowingly and willingly having his photograph taken and stored.”

“The Amish faith prohibits an individual from having his/her photograph taken,” the suit read. “This belief stems from the Biblical passage Exodus 20:4, which mandates that ‘You shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth,’ as well as the Christian belief in humility.”

Read the rest at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/27/amish-man-sues-to-buy-firearm-without-photo-id-in-gun-rights-religious-freedom-lawsuit/

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I just learned something new gejohnston Oct 2015 #1
And he is correct HassleCat Oct 2015 #2
Such BS Politicalboi Oct 2015 #3
Not really the point. What he's complaining about is the COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #4
The US needs to get its head out of its ass about religious rights and freedom of religion to do RKP5637 Oct 2015 #5
Are you sure they were amish and not 7th dayers or other traditionalists?n/t beevul Oct 2015 #7
mass murder by gun - does that reflect sincerely held religious beliefs as well? nt msongs Oct 2015 #6
How many amish mass murders in the history of the US? beevul Oct 2015 #8
Sound track from an Amish "Drive By" DonP Oct 2015 #13
I'm not going to link to it, however... beevul Oct 2015 #14
On the plus side ... DonP Oct 2015 #16
No, I believe the Amish do as the Canadians do: Drive by shoutings Big_Mike Oct 2015 #19
If the man is a mass murderer then have him arrested. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #9
I thought Amish weren't allow to buy anything that wasn't available before 1900 or thereabouts. denverbill Oct 2015 #10
I don't know about PA law, but gejohnston Oct 2015 #11
There are plenty Flyboy_451 Oct 2015 #12
They're already off the "ID required list". beevul Oct 2015 #15
They generally try to seperate themselves from modern society Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #17
1900? Muzzle-loader? Straw Man Oct 2015 #18
My point is if he's buying an Uzi, I question how deeply held his religious beliefs are. denverbill Oct 2015 #20
I doubt he's buying an Uzi -- most likely it's a hunting rifle or shotgun. Straw Man Oct 2015 #21
OK here is an article on Amish and technology. denverbill Oct 2015 #22
an Uzi would be out gejohnston Oct 2015 #23
What's your point? Straw Man Oct 2015 #24
My point is the point of the entire article. denverbill Oct 2015 #25
You can claim anything you want. branford Oct 2015 #26
It's a thorny legal question. Straw Man Oct 2015 #27
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