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jimmy the one

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15. where are these expert idiots
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:59 PM
Nov 2015

johnston: .. since most crime guns are pistols and we are talking about guns to criminals, your clarification isn't really relevant to the discussion

Trying to wiggle out johnston? you are the first person on the thread to date that limits the discussion to pistols.

johnston: ..if you read the complete statute, it also says it is legal ONLY IF you buy it from an FFL holder and you can legally own it in Illinois. In other words, you would still have to show the Indiana FFL holder your IL FOID if you are buying a long gun.

Of course. Duh>>> in a State other than the transferee's State of residence in an over-the-counter transaction at the licensee's premises obtained in conformity with the provisions.

So here we have it folks, johnston contradicting himself when he wrote this in his post 5, & post 3 different thread: johnston: smugglers drive just across the state line into Indiana, buy a gun and drive back. that might have been a valid argument in 1967, but is illegal under the Gun Control Act. I can not go in an Idaho gun store and buy a gun and walk out with it because I am not an Idaho resident. It is also a federal crime for me to sell a gun to anyone who is a resident of a different state without shipping it to an FFL holder in the buyer's state..... the 1968 Gun Control Act prohibits interstate sale without a dealers license in the buyer's state from getting involved. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172176469#post11

donP: I love the experts/idiots who still claim I can just drive over and pick up anything I want and drive home with it.

Which expert/idiot on this thread said that? Johnston said it was undoable to do what you did, buy your remington out of state:

johnston: ATF also said that the tracing data is not and should not be used to support claims of trafficking or straw purchasing since DC residents can not legally go to those states to buy guns.. the 1968 Gun Control Act prohibits interstate sale without a dealers license in the buyer's state from getting involved. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172176469#post11

Kang: Interstate long gun sales can only be made via an FFL, and must be legal in the buyers home state.

So you essentially agree with me that johnston was wrong that rifles & sgs can be purchased out of state, thanks.

A licensed dealer may not sell or deliver: (1) a handgun to a resident of another state; (2) a handgun or handgun ammunition to a person the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to believe is under the age of 21; or (3) a shotgun or rifle or ammunition for that firearm to a person the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to believe is under the age of 18.
A dealer may sell a rifle or shotgun to a resident of a different state if the sale is conducted in person at the dealer’s place of business and the sale complies with all of the legal conditions for sale in both states.
A dealer may not deliver a handgun to a purchaser through the mail however a dealer may mail a handgun in the course of a customary trade shipment to a firearms manufacturer or other FFL
http://smartgunlaws.org/dealer-regulations-policy-summary/

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