Gun Control & RKBA

Kang Colby

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39. No. I think the academic literature

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:09 PM

Nov 2015

doesn't suggest any noticeable decrease in the overall rate of suicide or homicide in association with waiting periods. There has been some cherry picked statistical analysis that indicates a correlation between firearm related suicide rates for those 55 and older and waiting periods...but no such correlation with the overall suicide rate has been noted. The same can be said of FOID programs and the overall suicide rate.

Japanese citizens are essentially prohibited from owning guns, yet they have a much higher suicide rate. Lots of other countries do too.

I consider waiting periods a form of prior restraint against a constitutionally protected right. I liken it to receiving government approval before engaging in activities protected by the 1st Amendment.

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Cross post from Gun Control Reform Activism. [View all] flamin lib Nov 2015 OP

I think most here also support this. As mad as I get at the gun folks here randys1 Nov 2015 #1

UBCs are only part of the gun-control panorama krispos42 Nov 2015 #2

There is nothing wrong with registration. flamin lib Nov 2015 #4

Theres plenty wrong with it. beevul Nov 2015 #6

When Obama, Clinton and other politicians discuss Australia and the UK as models for gun control, branford Nov 2015 #8

Screw Australia, lets copy Hawaii nationwide. nt flamin lib Nov 2015 #12

I'm against registration, and for that reason I'm leery of Universal Background checks. I don't see Waldorf Nov 2015 #9

So you admit that with registration UBCs can decrease gun violence flamin lib Nov 2015 #10

So could putting everyone in a cage. beevul Nov 2015 #13

You do know that you can't charge a prohibited person... krispos42 Nov 2015 #15

Think back to Hurricane Katrina, Big_Mike Nov 2015 #23

Interesting...can you link a reference? Marengo Nov 2015 #24

I rather doubt it. A $50 donation to the Brady Camapign says it's bullshit friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #37

And no evidence was produced... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #43

Frankly, that's bullshit. You've produced no evidence for that claim. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #42

The challenge is getting a "clean UBC Bill" passed DonP Nov 2015 #5

We are not fighting over background checks hack89 Nov 2015 #3

Its never enough though, is it? beevul Nov 2015 #7

How much gun control is enough? LonePirate Nov 2015 #26

Still pushing confiscation, eh? Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #27

Anyone willing to commit violent unrest and bloodshed would do so with or without the law. LonePirate Nov 2015 #28

That's...what's the term I'm looking for? Ah, right: that's bullshit. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #29

The number of gun nuts who would actually violently react is far less than you think. LonePirate Nov 2015 #31

I think you're very much mistaken. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #32

Why do you pro gun people ignore the societal change inherent in this discussion? LonePirate Nov 2015 #33

If there's such a societal change, then obviously the equation changes. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #34

Time machine not required, just move to Mexico n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #35

Though I find your position disgusting, you are one of the honest few. beevul Nov 2015 #36

They will not rest until everyone is a guaranteed easy victim. ileus Nov 2015 #30

Thanks for the OP and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #11

Nah, I don't support UBCs.... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #14

Thankfully you're not in charge DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #16

Thankfully, you're not either. Kang Colby Nov 2015 #17

Maybe you're not paying attention DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #18

Progressive indeed... branford Nov 2015 #19

Thank you . DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #21

Oh, I am. With the momentum behind gun rights... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #20

Are you one of those DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #22

Nope. n/t Kang Colby Nov 2015 #25

Good DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #38

No. I think the academic literature Kang Colby Nov 2015 #39

I realize waiting periods are not popular DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #40

Hope you had a good hunt. n/t Kang Colby Nov 2015 #41

Thanks DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #44