Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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11. Experts? No. As far as pro-control or control accepting folks like myself are concerned...

Reply to Human101948 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:08 PM

Feb 2016

...when you speak about enacting laws, knowing the subject matter is key. Formulating and voting for a useful and good law (maybe UBCs for example) would help everyone. Senator de Leon has lost credibility with anyone who cares about facts or any useful laws.

Having the MSM incorrectly throwing about terms that are just stupidly wrong erodes the already tenuous credibility some sources may still have.

All I can infer from the MSM lies and mistakes is that circulation, hit count and readership are meaningful and that facts don't matter.

Agreement can lead to progress but reaching agreement means that we all need to speak the same language.

Banning AR-15s while leaving a semi-auto .30-06 deer rifle with a solid wooden stock available makes no sense whatever.

You won't find many owners interested in registration.

Addressing the small number of accidental deaths via the fraction of those that may be eligible for hypothetical insurance compensation based on a legal mandate of insurance isn't looking at the big problem.

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Good that you point out the difference... Human101948 Feb 2016 #1

Speed reader hmm? discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #3

What's your point? Human101948 Feb 2016 #6

Experts? No. As far as pro-control or control accepting folks like myself are concerned... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #11

Well, portraying the *least* powerful rifles as the *most* powerful... benEzra Feb 2016 #12

re: " Even shoes and fists kill more people than rifles do, per the FBI." discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #22

Yabbut ... Straw Man Mar 2016 #30

Thanks for waving the white flag of surrender so conspicuously! pablo_marmol Mar 2016 #21

That reply in part helped make my point... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #23

No one is surrending to you Pablo... Human101948 Mar 2016 #25

Your sort helps piss away our moral authority through the use of bafflegab and mendacity... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #28

Please don't fall for their bullshit that they use to woo the evangelicals... Human101948 Mar 2016 #29

So, no, you do *not* have any evidence that pablo_marmol is a Republican. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #31

Ha ha ha......I didn't notice that he/she called me a Republican. pablo_marmol Mar 2016 #46

Derp........another FAILURE! pablo_marmol Mar 2016 #35

I took a bit to give myself a chance to consider the various possible angles... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #24

You are not seeing the forest for the trees... Human101948 Mar 2016 #26

You're not even seeing the trees. Straw Man Mar 2016 #32

If your interest is to pass gun-control laws via our party, then believe this... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #36

Australia is proof... Human101948 Mar 2016 #37

Actually, no gejohnston Mar 2016 #38

And the lack of homicides by police in Great Britain has nothing to do with their lack of guns Human101948 Mar 2016 #39

they also have more police to surround the suspect gejohnston Mar 2016 #40

So you're saying that we a violent homicidal culture in these United States? Human101948 Mar 2016 #41

Actually, no we are not gejohnston Mar 2016 #43

You are getting the picture! discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #44

Not even close. Jackson3000 Mar 2016 #45

As I see it you've got options: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #42

if gun owners would stop killing 30,000+ people every year this issue would waste away nt msongs Feb 2016 #2

Since two thirds of those are gun owners killing themselves... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #4

So talk to the gangs in Chicago, LA, Philly, DC, etc and see what they think. hack89 Feb 2016 #5

You're stepping into right wing territory... Human101948 Feb 2016 #7

We know without a doubt that violent crime is not evenly distributed hack89 Feb 2016 #8

Okey dokey, but the distraction of "black on black" crime and gangs is a right wing meme Human101948 Feb 2016 #9

No problem cracking down on illegal gun sales. hack89 Feb 2016 #10

I support cracking down those who sell guns to criminals. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #16

memes and truth discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #17

Like this legal business? Human101948 Mar 2016 #18

I've never heard of them but I suppose discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2016 #19

No, there are no investigations, it's all legal... Human101948 Mar 2016 #27

Yes. They conducted business ... Straw Man Mar 2016 #33

Actually, it is illegal. gejohnston Mar 2016 #34

Oh, come on. If they killed 200 a year, you'd still be trying to ban them. (n/t) benEzra Feb 2016 #13

why are you adding suicide numbers? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #14

We are not supposed to think of these things. We are supposed to react emotionally to the numbers. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #15

If you don't do sleight of hand, you aren't kool. Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #20