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jmg257

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11. The Constitutional "militia" was definitely something different than today.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:58 AM
Oct 2016

Those State entities were well-understood, and pre-existed the Constitution for decades. They were required by the Articles of Confederation, and "inherited" into the new govt organization.

AoC
"; but every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered,"


The militia were of the state (today there'd be 50), and they HAD TO BE maintained - well-armed and well trained (well-regulated militias were "necessary&quot . And rightly so - OUR freedoms as outlined in the new Constitution depended on them, made from the body of the people, the militia had very vital roles to fill when called into federal service.


"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,

"Congress shall have power...
...To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;"
...To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States"

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence."



These days just about all of us would be subject to 'exercise and service', not just select "gun bearers". "each and every free able-bodied white male citizen..." would of course be much expanded.

The arms we'd need to supply ourselves would be the very ones many want to ban (ARs and hi-cap mags, M-9 pistols etc).

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We have a right to live a happy life, but that doesn't mean we get drugs for free. DetlefK Oct 2016 #1
Happiness is a personal decision. JonathanRackham Oct 2016 #2
Ummm, beer... freebrew Oct 2016 #13
Welcome to DU George! GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #3
Religion is a right but Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #4
What we have is the freedom to exercise that right if so chosen, but I'm sure you know this. Marengo Oct 2016 #5
Congressional founders debated just that thing - providing guns to the people for fulfilling their jmg257 Oct 2016 #6
Interesting you said "even mandatory" packman Oct 2016 #7
Milita act of 1792 davepc Oct 2016 #8
Thanks for the research - interesting things in that packman Oct 2016 #9
A few mods made in 1903 discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #10
The Constitutional "militia" was definitely something different than today. jmg257 Oct 2016 #11
"...the basis of the 2nd" was indeed the basis of the whole Constitution at that time... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #14
If such a thing were practical, I'd be all for replacing the majority of our standing forces... Marengo Oct 2016 #16
Kind of like Switzerland? gejohnston Oct 2016 #17
A lack of interest in the militias kept them from being very effective. jmg257 Oct 2016 #12
The Civil War killed the miita system more then anything. davepc Oct 2016 #18
Imagine what junk the government would provide....Hi points and ravens. ileus Oct 2016 #15
I've actually heard this arguement made in all seriousness. stone space Oct 2016 #19
So ... Straw Man Oct 2016 #20
Are they actually arguing for the govt to give them arms for free?!? jmg257 Oct 2016 #21
There has been a tax on guns since 1919 gejohnston Oct 2016 #22
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