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tortoise1956

(671 posts)
14. Apology?
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jun 2017

I credited him with the intelligence to actually understand what the law covered. If he truly understood what the law, then it was willful misdirection when he said that S. 397 is (and I quote):

"a bill that prohibits victims of the gun industry’s negligent practices from filing lawsuits in America’s courts."

That is utter bullshit. The law does nothing of the kind. It simply prevents firearms manufacturers from being sued when otherwise properly functioning firearms are used in criminal acts after they have been legally transferred to sellers. Negligence on the part of the manufacturer is still actionable under this law, and I expected Bill to know that - especially considering that one of his cites was one where Kahr Arms was held to be criminally negligent because they did not accurately track and protect their stock. (This judgment occurred AFTER the law was passed, so obviously the law must cover negligent practices, right?)

Why was the law passed? Because individuals and groups were suing firearms manufacturers for merely building firearms. It reached the point where D.C. actually passed a law holding manufacturers liable for any violence caused by "assault weapons". That would be like saying that anyone injured in a car accident could sue the auto manufacturers for damages, even if the auto was functioning properly and the driver was at fault. Even though there was no legal foundation, and the lawsuits were eventually thrown out of court, they were still costing firearms manufacturers millions of dollars by having to respond to them. Thus, S. 397 was proposed and passed (House 283-144, Senate 65-31) and signed into law.

Now, if Bill really can't understand that, then I apologize for having mistakenly believed him capable of that level of perception and basing my reply on that belief.

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And once again, misdirection... [View all] tortoise1956 Jun 2017 OP
Spot on with your post and especially trying to discuss anything they post Alea Jun 2017 #1
"Not quite a lie" to which you reply with not quite the truth. nt flamin lib Jun 2017 #2
Could you be specific about what's 'not quite the truth' in their reply? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2017 #7
Please do not hold your breath while awaiting a reply. oneshooter Jun 2017 #9
So don't leave me hanging... tortoise1956 Jun 2017 #8
Still waiting tortoise1956 Jun 2017 #10
Back at the ranch: According to GCRA... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #11
It took two days for your first response so I felt no urgency in responding to the flamin lib Jun 2017 #12
Apology? tortoise1956 Jun 2017 #14
See, there ya' go again. flamin lib Jun 2017 #15
You sure you're not projecting what you think of Bill? Alea Jun 2017 #16
1. You don't have a dog in this fight and flamin lib Jun 2017 #17
And STILL nothing tortoise1956 Jun 2017 #20
This is a common among the Banners. oneshooter Jun 2017 #21
I didn't call you a liar in the same way you didn't call Bill a liar. flamin lib Jun 2017 #22
I've given you the benefit of the doubt more than once... tortoise1956 Jun 2017 #25
Bill did, in fact, promulgate at least one untruth. 'Poor fact-checking' is simply one explanation friendly_iconoclast Jun 2017 #26
I was once requested to post in Gun Control Reform Activism GreydeeThos Jun 2017 #3
I merely asked a question on some numbers a member posted. yagotme Jun 2017 #18
Our "activism" group sarisataka Jun 2017 #4
And I can't understand that. yagotme Jun 2017 #19
"They supported Mark Kirk(R) over Sen. Tammy Duckworth in the general election." pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #23
They'll never learn. "Gun Control" is a religion for those folks. Facts are irrelevant. pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #5
Kick and rec - The Polack MSgt Jun 2017 #6
Aw c'mon. Show me where the Democratic party does not Support the constitution. nt flamin lib Jun 2017 #13
Aw c'mon......do you really think that anyone falls for your strawman? pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #24
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