Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: A question for this group-- [View all]jimmy the one
(2,745 posts)digon: I truly do not understand what it is that would make someone feel they need to carry a gun-unless, of course, they truly live where the threat of violence is a statistical reality.
I don't know if there is really any such place re violence being a 'statistical reality', outside of known drug haven bums slumming down by the rivers. Recently Detroit had the highest violent crime rate in US, ~2,000 per 100,000 people for year of 2104. That means over the course of a year there's a 2% chance of being a victim. Of course unreported crime would be higher perhaps 5%, which still means over 90% chance you would not be victim of a violent crime over a year. It's just that certain urban areas are relatively more dangerous than others.
I never carried concealed, figure the risk far greater than remote benefits, but if I did it would be unloaded with any bullets in my house or glove compartment.
Gary Kleck's infamous dgu study (defensive gun use), albeit a load of crap, revealed that 54% of dgu's are 'verbal', by just mentioning 'stop go away or I'll get my gun'. Another 20% or so is simply brandishing a firearm, as I could do with an unloaded pistol.
dig on spot on: I would agree that working WITH gun owners would be a good thing. I feel that the fringe control the argument.
Again-I have guns, I hunt, I kill dear(sometimes), and do not want to not be able to do so.-incriminating, ha!
I will happily accept restrictions on my rights to do so. Especially ones that save any lives.
I don't care if the gov knows what I have regarding guns.
I will happily restrict the number of guns I have.
I will happily report all gun purchases.
I will gladly give up the right to clips that allow more than 3 rounds(mine has up to 5)
I will happily prosecute those that feel they need a 20 round clip.
I will look critically upon those that feel they need total freedom in this arena are bad actors.
I regret to inform you, you are somewhat being appeased here. These are generally unwelcome views on rkba. However I support you & hereby plant a kiss of death. I renounced any 2nd amendment right after 2008 heller, as being a subversion of
original intent. Even so, I could go down the nearest gun shop & most probably purchase any gun they had for sale. There is no 2ndA background check to purchase. There might be a far right gun owner who wouldn't, calling me a tree hugging libral, but I could eventually get a gun. The 2ndA is obsolete outdated & a hindrance to preventing & decreasing violent crime rates & safety in america.
The violent crime rate in US fell dramatically during the clinton years, and guess what? so did the gun ownership rate drop dramatically, approx the same 30% rate. Less gun ownership rate, less crime. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=197829
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