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Gun Control & RKBA

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Dial H For Hero

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Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:52 PM Feb 2021

H R 127 - It's far worse than it looks at first glance. Absurdly so, in fact. [View all]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text

Someone in another thread has already described this bill as an $800 poll tax.

It's almost indescribably more draconian than that.

Let's use as an example someone who wishes to own a single firearm, a .22 rifle. They buy it at age 25 and keep it for 40 years.

Our gun owner needs to get a General License. This entails passing a Brady background check. No federal fee, but almost all dealers charge for it. My local gun shop charges $45. We'll just round it to $50 because of increased demand. Next, a psychological evaluation. A quick bit of Googling states that the cost for this would be at least $600 (please correct me if that's wrong). I very much doubt anyone but the potential licensee will be on the hook for this. Next, 24 hours of training. This is speculative, but I'm going to say $20 an hour per person for large groups, so that's $480. Finally, you need a firearms insurance policy, specified to be $800.

Total cost of your gun license: $1,930.

But wait! There's more! The license has to be renewed every year for the first 5 years, and every 3 years after that. Our hypothetical gun owner will need to renew his license 15 times. So how much does a renewal cost? There's another Brady check ($50), another psych evaluation ($600), and 8 hours of training ($200). Each renewal will cost $850. Multiplied by 15, that's $12,750 over the course of the next 39 years.

Still more costs! The mandatory insurance policy is only good for one year, and has to be renewed annually for the same price ($800). 39 more annual policies will cost $31,200.

That means the total cost of owning a single firearm for one's lifetime, aside from the now trivial cost of the firearm itself, would under this bill be $45,880. And if the firearm in question is a "military-style" weapon, it will cost tens of thousands of dollars more over time due to increased training costs. Per gun.

Telling gun owners they're going to have to pay in the neighborhood of fifty grand just to own a bolt action .22 or a double barreled shotgun is not a recipe for increasing one's share of the vote.
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And make it a felony to not pay your gun tax aeromanKC Feb 2021 #1
Say hello to out new QOP overlords and I don't own a firearm. LiberalArkie Feb 2021 #2
These are, I take it, your back of the napkin calculations? mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #3
I did the calculations rather quickly, but I think they're correct as per the text of the bill. Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #6
If you only own one gun ... Straw Man Feb 2021 #30
True, but still much more accurate to say 'for 1 gun' :) nt mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #32
Link mikeysnot Feb 2021 #4
I think it might come down to registering all the person firearms. (also comes in handy if stolen) LiberalArkie Feb 2021 #5
Thanks for catching that, I edited it in. Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #7
Yes glad you also think it is a good start! mikeysnot Feb 2021 #9
Oh, on the contrary. I do, however, appreciate that the matter can be discussed rationally Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #13
This is some serious fantasy writing hack89 Feb 2021 #24
Sorry for the inconvenience, we are just looking for a solution to this shitshow Under The Radar Feb 2021 #8
Because gun control puts Republicans in power... krispos42 Feb 2021 #12
Your OC ideas are good ones. HR 127 not so much just a vote loser. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2021 #14
If this goes anywhere, it'll be a House and (maybe) Senate loser, too. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #18
In my experience... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2021 #22
Why would registration stop what is happening in that picture? hack89 Feb 2021 #25
Registration is a vehicle to expose red flag applicants. Under The Radar Feb 2021 #26
The kid was breaking multiple laws hack89 Feb 2021 #28
I agree. Under The Radar Feb 2021 #29
You're missing the point. Straw Man Feb 2021 #31
The Bell Curve. aka-chmeee Feb 2021 #10
I have no problem with this at all PirateRo Feb 2021 #11
Could you please explain exactly how charging someone $50,000 or so over the course of Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #15
It's merely antigun Orwellian bullshit, on the order of "Freedom is Slavery" and "War is Peace" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #17
Note also the attempt at 'forced teaming' in the post you're replying to friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #19
This "protects" the 2ndA the way Republicans keep trying to "protect" women seeking abortions friendly_iconoclast Feb 2021 #16
Sounds like that "hunter" yagotme Feb 2021 #27
Sounds fair! Nt USALiberal Feb 2021 #20
Is "Screw anyone who wishes to own a firearm" fair? Dial H For Hero Feb 2021 #21
Translation discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2021 #23
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