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In reply to the discussion: H R 127 - It's far worse than it looks at first glance. Absurdly so, in fact. [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)17. It's merely antigun Orwellian bullshit, on the order of "Freedom is Slavery" and "War is Peace"
This is a previous reply to your interlocutor:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=209943
You offer little more than glittering generalities and superlatives in defense of HR 127
Generalities such as:
It has to do with responsible gun ownership and the application of an independent standard to ensure the 2nd Amendment far into the future. That bill is an excellent start to this process...
https://propagandacritic.com/index.php/how-to-decode-propaganda/glittering-generalities/
These are all glittering generalities. These words sound great, but they mean different things to different people...
...Alert readers will recognize that glittering generalities are the mirror image of name-calling words. One technique encourages us to reject ideas or people without considering the evidence; the other hopes we will approve of ideas or people without considering the evidence...
...Propagandists dont want us focusing on specific details. They hope to see us bathing in these words positive emotional glow.
It is also important to consider a close cousin of the glittering generality: the superlative. Superlatives are adjectives used to describe something of the very highest quality. Words like amazing, beautiful, best, fabulous, phenomenal, strong, and tremendous are all such words. But what do these words really mean in the context of the speakers claims? What, specifically, makes the speakers idea so tremendous?...
...Alert readers will recognize that glittering generalities are the mirror image of name-calling words. One technique encourages us to reject ideas or people without considering the evidence; the other hopes we will approve of ideas or people without considering the evidence...
...Propagandists dont want us focusing on specific details. They hope to see us bathing in these words positive emotional glow.
It is also important to consider a close cousin of the glittering generality: the superlative. Superlatives are adjectives used to describe something of the very highest quality. Words like amazing, beautiful, best, fabulous, phenomenal, strong, and tremendous are all such words. But what do these words really mean in the context of the speakers claims? What, specifically, makes the speakers idea so tremendous?...
Then there's the following passage from Orwell's ""Politics and the English Language" :
"The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different. Statements like "Marshal Pétain was a true patriot," "The Soviet press is the freest in the world," "The Catholic Church is opposed to persecution," are almost always made with intent to deceive. Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, liberal, reactionary, equality..."
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H R 127 - It's far worse than it looks at first glance. Absurdly so, in fact. [View all]
Dial H For Hero
Feb 2021
OP
I did the calculations rather quickly, but I think they're correct as per the text of the bill.
Dial H For Hero
Feb 2021
#6
I think it might come down to registering all the person firearms. (also comes in handy if stolen)
LiberalArkie
Feb 2021
#5
Oh, on the contrary. I do, however, appreciate that the matter can be discussed rationally
Dial H For Hero
Feb 2021
#13
Sorry for the inconvenience, we are just looking for a solution to this shitshow
Under The Radar
Feb 2021
#8
If this goes anywhere, it'll be a House and (maybe) Senate loser, too.
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2021
#18
Could you please explain exactly how charging someone $50,000 or so over the course of
Dial H For Hero
Feb 2021
#15
It's merely antigun Orwellian bullshit, on the order of "Freedom is Slavery" and "War is Peace"
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2021
#17
Note also the attempt at 'forced teaming' in the post you're replying to
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2021
#19
This "protects" the 2ndA the way Republicans keep trying to "protect" women seeking abortions
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2021
#16