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Gun Control & RKBA

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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
28. Oh, I missed your devestating "own"
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:14 PM
Apr 2021

It was written in white ink in on Casper the friendly ghost in a blizzard, that's why I didn't see it.



I pointed out the issues with RFID, namely that the fob/ring/bracelet can be stolen along with the gun. I also pointed out that your gun can still be used against you if the perp is close enough. Biometrics is more secure in that there is no RDID device that can be stolen and a grabbed gun can't be used against you, but rapid, reliable, and accurate detection of biometric information is problematic.



Whatever.

It's not a bad idea. I'm not against the technology emerging into the marketplace but at this point I am against it being mandated. Once the cops start using it, you'll see it trickling into the marketplace.

What's probably going to happen is one of the big gun makers will buy up some smart-gun startup company for their technology and then develop and market a smart gun for police use. One ongoing point of concern that cops have is their guns being taken from them and used against them. I understand that the police spend a decent amount of time on weapon retention in hand-to-hand combat, and that they use holsters that lock their handguns in unless drawn in a specific way to help prevent an attacker from yanking the gun out during a struggle.

So, you make a pistol that has the ergonomics, simplicity, reliability, and accuracy of a Glock, but with biometric or RFID smart technology, and get a major police department to buy it. I'm not a Glock fanboy but I think they have the largest share of the police market as well as a substantial civilian following. Other guns are equally as ergonomic, simple, reliable, and accurate, but Glock has a lot of inertia behind it.

Yeah, it will cost more but the police can make the argument it that it will pay for itself by avoiding the legal, financial, and medical costs of having their officers safer.

A big gun company will have the resources to fill large orders, provide long-term support, and also supply civilian demand. Heck, a big company can even sell the guns at or below cost for the purposes of getting a foothold in the market.

A big gun company can also sponsor a professional shooting team. If this RFID/biometric gun can compete sucessfully against "dumb guns" in IDPA competitions, for example, that's proof of viability.

But if the smart gun can't compete, if the technology causes delays or failures that prevent the shooting team from winning, then this is an opportunity for the gun maker to work with the shooting team to resolve problems. The stakes are high in competition but lives are not on the line.

Many of the gun makers have professional shooting teams, and lessons learned in competition flow down to regular production guns. Get the smart guns working in competition, and they will make waves and drive interest from many directions.

Get Armatix into the IDPA or other, similar pistol-shooting competitions if they want to get market share.

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Recap of a post in GD [View all] AndyS Mar 2021 OP
Here is my question... TheRealNorth Mar 2021 #1
No, I'm not. AndyS Mar 2021 #2
Did you not recently say you were open to prohibiting ownership of revolvers, pumps, and lever Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #3
Only if after time, statistics and evaluation they AndyS Mar 2021 #4
Thank you for the clarification. Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #5
Okay, H. Sleep tight. AndyS Mar 2021 #6
You're missing the part about the breakdown... yagotme Mar 2021 #7
Unsatisfactory discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2021 #8
I think a better question would be, yagotme Mar 2021 #9
Andy hasn't replied to one of my posts in years. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2021 #11
Seems like I'm on ignore, also. n/t yagotme Apr 2021 #12
It's a bit of club discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #13
I was blocked some time ago, for asking a question. yagotme Apr 2021 #14
I wrote a reply detailing the problems with somoone's prposed draconian gun control proposal. Dial H For Hero Apr 2021 #15
Well, you disagreed with someone... yagotme Apr 2021 #17
"gangs don't count" Please show me where I said that EX500rider Mar 2021 #10
I don't exempt guns from the second point krispos42 Apr 2021 #16
"(C)an only really use one at a time." yagotme Apr 2021 #18
I've seen plenty of dual-wield movies krispos42 Apr 2021 #19
Have shot at SASS cowboy shoots, in Duelist category, yagotme Apr 2021 #20
That's one way to do it with single-action revolvers krispos42 Apr 2021 #22
If one is a good shot, and practices, yagotme Apr 2021 #33
Right. Straw Man Apr 2021 #36
Thank you again for the thoughtful reply. AndyS Apr 2021 #21
Yeah, I got interrupted krispos42 Apr 2021 #23
I remember that post. I pretty much beat you to death with your own talking points. AndyS Apr 2021 #24
You think you did. You didn't. krispos42 Apr 2021 #25
Yes, I pretty much did. AndyS Apr 2021 #26
Oh, I missed your devestating "own" krispos42 Apr 2021 #28
It's okay if you missed my points, it's a gun related affliction. AndyS Apr 2021 #29
Hmmm... making it personal now. I must be hitting a nerve. krispos42 Apr 2021 #30
I'll wait for your complete response. AndyS Apr 2021 #31
Continued! krispos42 Apr 2021 #32
Yeah, right, all the car safety stuff was available just waiting to be voluntarily adopted . . . AndyS Apr 2021 #34
Excuse the intrusion discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #35
Some counter babble discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #27
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