Gun Control & RKBA

krispos42

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14. Um... you're the one entering this discussion without any real numbers of DGUs.

Sun Mar 13, 2022, 10:30 AM

Mar 2022

You have DGUs that result in an attacker being killed, and you have accidental gunshot deaths.

So... you need me to hold up a mirror or something?

At least the CDC links to a report saying the MINIMUM number of DGUs is 60,000 per year.,

Although definitions of defensive gun use vary, it is generally defined as the use of a firearm to protect and defend one’s self, family, others, and/or property against crime or victimization.

Estimates of defensive gun use vary depending on the questions asked, populations studied, timeframe, and other factors related to the design of studies. The report Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence indicates a range of 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year.

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html

60,000 divided by 203 is 296. So the minimum ratio of DGUs to justifiable homicides is 296:1.

2,500,000 divided by 203 is 12,315. Maximum ration of DGUs to justifiable homicides is 12,315:1

And I don't think you get my point about your subject line. "I don't deal in thoughts or prayers" means you don't think or pray.

I think you mean "I don't deal in 'thoughts and prayers'". "Thoughts and prayers" being a common expression of solidarity and helplessness when a tragedy occurs.

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Congratulations!! The number of defensive uses (203) has almost but not quite AndyS Mar 2022 #1

Do defensive shootings have to be fatal to be effective? Throck Mar 2022 #4

Ah yes, the Lott argument. AndyS Mar 2022 #5

Nonetheless, the question remains krispos42 Mar 2022 #6

I don't deal in thoughts OR prayers. AndyS Mar 2022 #8

*snicker* might why to edit your subject line krispos42 Mar 2022 #12

There, I fixed the subject line. AndyS Mar 2022 #13

Um... you're the one entering this discussion without any real numbers of DGUs. krispos42 Mar 2022 #14

Oh dear God this gets tedious . . . AndyS Mar 2022 #15

I quoted and linked to the CDC krispos42 Mar 2022 #16

kleck's 2.5 million dgu study jimmy the one Mar 2022 #11

re: "...win-win?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #9

I assumed it was you posting this USALiberal Mar 2022 #2

Looks like a good shoot. What is the problem? NT kelly1mm Mar 2022 #3

My problem is the myth that guns make you safer. They do not. AndyS Mar 2022 #7

The reality is fear sells. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #10