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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
15. Oh dear God this gets tedious . . .
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 11:01 AM
Mar 2022

DGUs are not reported by the GunViolenceArchive.org as deaths and/or injuries or even discharges. The reports are gleaned from newspaper reports of gun use in a defensive manner that can be VERIFIED. GVA does this because there aren't any other reliable sources for this information.

You are still quoting the the Kleck study (as is the CDC) that has been laughed out of existence in academic circles. This isn't research it has been admitted to be wishful thinking. Both min and max numbers come from the same discredited report because there aren't any other sources BECAUSE SUCH NUMBERS CAN'T BE VERIFIED by reputable research organizations.

You asked me what I thought the DGU to justifiable homicide ratio is (don't know why you bring another variable into the discussion except to cloud the issue, DGU and Justifiable homicide are two different things) and I said that I don't deal in 'thoughts OR prayers' not being a clairvoyant or superstitious. Your 'arguments' seem to be based on both.

After 40 years of 'discussing' this with gunners I've learned that if I don't give hard cold definable and verifiable FACTS I'm ridiculed for using emotion and not logic. Now it seems for you it's all turned on it's head.

eta: you now have the floor to yourself. I'm off to offer care and support to a cancer patient for about a week.

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