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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: Guns: rules and rights [View all]

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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18. I know there are some states with UBCs.
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 09:31 PM
Mar 2023

IMO, you're not winning nationally with that kind of mandatory law. I respect what states enact. For now, I think it's time to get some disenchanted Republican gun owners on our side. There are some folks who are not so much Republican as they are anti-Democrat because of key issues, draconian gun laws being one.

Dostoevsky — "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."

IMO, This idea can be generalized. Our country has moved to dealing harshly with some groups of people marginalized due to certain circumstances. Examples:
Prisoners
Pot smokers (although this is improving)
Old folks
Mentally ill
Native Americans (especially those on reservations)
LGBT folks
Muslims
In some instances women are still treated as second class.

Many problems are left to worsen until people die or the police are involved and then people die.
Poor folks are often forced into housing programs that are ill maintained. Teens and young adults are drawn into drugs or dealing to cope or survive or both.

Clearly there are problems in the U.S. that are not addressed. The only reason "assault weapons" are getting attention is because "mass" shootings for the media are really ma$$ $hooting$.

For 2020 the CDC reports 19,384 firearm homicides. Last I heard long guns of all types (AR-15s being a subset) amount to under 500. I just don't understand the dedication to narrowing this issue to focus on 2 to 3% of the problem.

With around 46,000 suicides and 24,000 being firearm involved, that might be a good place to start if you're a politician who actually wants to help.

Well, off the soap box. Have a good weekend.

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Guns: rules and rights [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2023 OP
These would be helpful. AndyS Mar 2023 #1
I agree about the NICS. yagotme Mar 2023 #5
This is a significant problem with NICS Hangingon Apr 2023 #28
Name shouldn't be a problem, as ID is usually used. yagotme Apr 2023 #29
They do have fake ids. Hangingon Apr 2023 #30
I agree that NICS and fake ID"s are a problem. yagotme Apr 2023 #31
Oregon Timewas Mar 2023 #2
Typical government thought process. yagotme Mar 2023 #4
end result for now Timewas Mar 2023 #6
Same thing going on in IL right now. yagotme Mar 2023 #7
I disagree. Typical mucking up the works by the gun lobby. AndyS Mar 2023 #8
You're welcome. yagotme Mar 2023 #10
It's only a win for people who store all their brains in their trigger finger. A win would be AndyS Mar 2023 #11
How often does the government get it right? AndyS Mar 2023 #12
Perhaps you should research some of the things you listed, yagotme Mar 2023 #14
Hmmm, who said, AndyS Mar 2023 #17
The right has occasionally taken control of the gov't, yagotme Mar 2023 #19
Then distrust Republicans (and the gun Lobby) but AndyS Mar 2023 #23
I'm for it (BGC) DashOneBravo Apr 2023 #27
Here in IL, yagotme Mar 2023 #3
Yeah right. AndyS Mar 2023 #9
Advocating gun control yagotme Mar 2023 #13
OMFG you keep citing Kleck who has been discredited for a decade or more AndyS Mar 2023 #15
Don't tell me: yagotme Mar 2023 #20
Defensive gun use per year. AndyS Mar 2023 #16
Here's some more: yagotme Mar 2023 #21
Well, there's this . . . AndyS Mar 2023 #24
Hi, I agree...somewhat. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2023 #26
I know there are some states with UBCs. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2023 #18
TY. yagotme Mar 2023 #22
The phrasing is always interesting. ManiacJoe Apr 2023 #25
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