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9. Well I don't have any juicy stories
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 01:40 PM
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But I can say that proximity to the sort of military industrial complex that is increasingly Google/Meta etc and corporate culture in general does not have the best effect on publicly funded academic science.

Academic science is very competitive and people are insecure. But when you are a very bright person, at some point, you have to get that the sort of cowardice/liability and obsession with image curation sans real character that results from being adjacent to these basically corrupt, sleazy, shifty, disingenuous corporate dimwits is not a good thing.

These are bleak times and the reality is that everything is more arbitrary, political and shitty than anyone wants and you are not going to get through them with this douchey, blandly cowardly and dimwitted corporate douchebag approach.

You should be able to use your brain outside strictly field related work and when you do it shouldn’t be this faux edgy assholery that is dickish to anyone you can get away with fucking over and obsequious to the worst morons.

I get the realities of society. I saw that stupid witch hunt against Dr Fauci. That bs about lab leaks etc. These societies are a joke with endless nitpicky conversations about a few trivial scandals and completely apparently oblivious acceptance of large scale corporate fraud, rule breaking etc.

These are times when scientists should be like Norbert Weiner instead of some sort of Google creep.

And I also know that people who are completely spineless flounder in times like these and worse that’s contagious.

Rather than image curating PR..especially when you are good scientists, not creeps etc, but merely worried due to the insecurity of the life-yes academia is competitive and the American society is sadly precarious..I get it, but there comes a point where intelligent scientists who are not even shifty or creepy, but still a bit craven and douchey..I don’t like saying craven and douchey but..I mean honestly if the shoe fits..

You shouldn’t endlessly mimic corporate douches. Which was never my main mentor but it definitely is a problem with even good pis who are adjacent to those greasy google etc creeps.

The real security against slander, ransomware, unfair attacks etc isn’t bogus forms of “open” and theater or to kowtowing to the worst people in the most craven ways. It’s to take a risk sometimes and have a spine. I don’t like politics near science either. But there tech creeps make life hard and no longer feasible to pretend this atrocious meninist libertarian tech creep coup is in your head.

I am worried too. It’s not casual bomb throwing..

I live in this part harmless podunk part blatantly misogynistic hell which is supposed to be..awww it’s just a misunderstanding..it’s not…it’s mostly harassment. It’s not possible to see the stuff that grows around you bot or human creep and be oblivious or ascribe it all to chance or non malicious stuff.

This is not the effect technology should have on society-some baubles but a bleaker women’s rights landscape, less democracy and if this isn’t the time to acknowledge it when?

The drill is first it’s cowardly and “somebody else’s problem” while navigating these complex labyrinths of tech exploiting plausible deniability with actual corrupt misogynists and corporate dickheads in the woodwork. Then calling women like me crazy. That’s screwing yourselves over in the long run and painting yourself into an indefensible corner with any actually decent person. The threat is not bs scandals and lawsuits. It’s whatever you end up having in place of what was once a semblance of a conscience.

Cowardice is not an option once the world is this bleak. Either don’t start non routine shit. If you do, don’t do it this execrably.
I am sick of suffering stupidity.

And well I was disoriented and out of it but I am fine now. But I don’t have any patience with drivel and never will. This like Covid is a reset point. These guys should try to do better not reliably worse and worse as time goes on and the stuff I am thinking of clearly represents an error.

Instead of hiding behind red tape when that’s convenient, being okay with casual rule-breaking (stuff that should implicitly be clearly to anyone with a functioning brain who is not engaged in self-deception). Copying repellant companies like Google and buying into lame behaviorist shit is ..well lame..

It’s not anything specific. It’s the culture that comes from being adjacent to these creepy tech cos and that’s so stupid in scientists who are not even sleazy or creepy, but worst case kinda lame and douchey and apparently what is appropriate is pretending not to get that and instead babble like a glassy eyed hostage with severe Stockholm Syndrome.

I suppose I should state all that in “professional and appropriate language”-fuck that. It’s craven and unpardonably stupid if nothing else to bang on about what is appropriate..language..I mean really? Ffs. As superficial as you can get..
Skin deep professionalism..

I may swear like a sailor, but I wouldn’t ever be unprofessional the way a Google/Meta or other tech creeps dickhead is.

And yeah it’s not juicy and well when I am decoupled from douchebag central ;-/, I can handle this stupid better alone honestly.

But douchey cowardice is contagious..even if emotion contagion is Facebook fluff..

I really feel like these guys endanger their labs and futures with how cowardly they can be in the face of any crisis. Corporate pr and liability culture is not a good fit for basically honest scientists. Which in my experience is most scientists. But this corporate tech creep culture is a cultifying influence.

And well if people want to be that way, they can. I won’t. You actually come off as shady when you aren’t if you behave like that.
So stupid.. endangering your work and networks needlessly by not using your brain but copying managerial gambits from these by now clearly maladroit and sleazy corporate knuckleheads.

There are instances where I’d defer to a subset of these guys on science, but never on common sense comprehension of human nature, human thought or well anything that requires a non convoluted thought process involving justifying the sleaziest(and therefore stupidest) parts of the antithesis of any notion of a social contract these societies are built on. Come the fuck on..such bollocks..

And these are not corrupt or sleazy or bad people. They must actually be that stupid about people..Greasy corporate lawyers etc are douchebags..the last people anyone should pay attention to as you war on your own employees. They have a mutualistic relationship with this Wynn Williams type.

But it’s a bloody shit deal for anyone who ever honestly engaged with such douchebags. It’s disappointing and I have given up on any sign of brains in such people.
This ongoing Trump apocalypse/wasteland should make people question that stuff rather than double down on it. But I predict the exact opposite. These are stupid people.

Anyway ..I am going to go start my life over hoping I can find people somewhere still who aren’t this fucking stupid and awful, because it is hopeless to expect any sense from the people I am thinking of by now.

They can enjoy Trump and the tech creeps and insist it’s all crazy women who are lazy, SpongeBob SquarePants employees or whatever the bs of the day is..

But for anyone less lame, unfortunate as this disaster of an administration is it’s also a reset point. I haven’t felt like I lived in a democracy since 2011 and now it’s more overt, I am not going to knuckle down.
Yeah fuck that.
And always an impending sense of doom if you are not as craven and fake stupid as you can be.

Last edit: I was thinking again about my sleazy, military-industrial-media-complex associated former employer. Among the many fraudulent conceit of these hypocritical, brainless pricks was this entirely bogus admiration for retraction watch and this really bullshit pretense of caring about openness and science from people who don’t stop sucking military and billionaire dick.
Rigorous quality science is an indisputably important thing. But with these people it really is performative fluff where their coexistence with vile predatory corporate whores etc is glossed over. I was working on a paper as a follow up to another paper of mine which I will complete on my own time without performative concern about open science! etc.
I am afraid I no longer can pretend to buy this shit. If I had made a huge deal about being female etc it would be one thing.
I don’t..but don’t go around being a sleazy creep in bed with all the forces ruining society, have no actually serious concept of right or wrong and then find some douchey internet sleuth..

i back good and open science. But I don’t buy into self righteous paranoid sleuths etc. I sleuth myself and don’t go around resentfully and paranoidly looking for conspiracies in publicly funded science ( talked about skewed priorities..I saw the estimates..it’s a small percent of publicly funded scientific papers that are filled with misconduct).
Where as these corrupt Google and meta etc parasites these creeps are in bed witb are destroying society along with this Nazi uprising.
So don’t cloak this conservative paranoia as actual concern about societal malfeasance rather than a personal grudge.
Hey I hate douchebags too. I don’t plan to go and sleuth because that’s a douchebag worldview.
Seriously get your shit together and see through your own bs.
Go sleuth google and meta/microsoft/apple as Lina khan was doing instead of witch-hunts over reefer madness or any made up shit.
For my part, I will pushback because I don’t like actual sleaziness passed off as virtue and I can’t stand this half witted Wikipedia! Some douchebags on the net think I am virtuous and transparent..I rule! Drivel..
Everything about these people is somehow creepy, corrupt and compromised but they want to seize the mantle of integrity and bs.
That works only with morons and ones who don’t see the corporate mic hellscape bts.

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