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bemildred

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16. A few comments:
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:59 AM
Jul 2012

1.) You ought to mention "Stranger in a Strange Land" -- Heinlein, it suffers from all of his flaws, esp. fatuous female characters, but is certainly competitive with "Mote in God's Eye" in terms of influence, of breaking new ground. "Can you grok it?" One of the first to break into the mainstream.

2.) It was all pulp to start with, so it's mostly "pulpy", and this is still true, I'm reading through Kim Stanley Robinson now, who is definitely "modern", and I am jarred all the time by the product placements and little commercial bits littered about, and other things too, but you are going to see that with any author who is doing mass-market work.

3.) Everything changed in the 60s, and it has kept right on changing. Prior to that, what we call right wing was just about all there was.

4.) But yeah, I agree, Ayn Rand in Space, a lot of it.

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I have a hard time with RW SF [View all] cthulu2016 Jan 2012 OP
agreed. mzteris Jan 2012 #1
Indeed quakerboy Jan 2012 #3
well said dem644555il Mar 2012 #14
What, nothing to say about L. Neil Smith ? :^D eppur_se_muova Jan 2012 #2
oooooooo, betcha you don't spend much time in the "Honorverse"! n/t TygrBright Jan 2012 #4
How true, how true. SheilaT Feb 2012 #5
His view of women is the cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #6
I didn't know about the ad thing, SheilaT Feb 2012 #7
I would stop short of chickenhawk cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #8
June 1968 Galaxy Magazine salvorhardin Feb 2012 #11
Ah, yes. ChazInAz Oct 2012 #19
I respectfully disagree about "The Mote In God's Eye" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #9
In saying "finest classic SF novel" cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #10
Hated that book. ChazInAz Oct 2012 #20
But all those things *do* take place in fictional universes . . . MrModerate Feb 2012 #12
You forgot Poul Anderson. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #13
Anyone ever read J. Neil Schulman's Alongside Night? Moe Shinola Jul 2012 #15
A few comments: bemildred Jul 2012 #16
And yet Heinlein's very first story ever, Lifeline, takes a huge swing at the insurance industry.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #17
Fred Saberhagen had a sci-fi novel mocking the Sexual Revolution Odin2005 Sep 2012 #18
I enjoyed "The War Against the Rull" back in the day Fumesucker Oct 2012 #21
i'm with you 100% mjrr_595 Oct 2012 #22
I just got back from MileHi Con in Denver. SheilaT Oct 2012 #23
I've been reading Sci-Fi books for the last 50 years jambo101 Apr 2013 #24
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