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But he was a lazy defender in Baltimore. Playing with Clyde & Willis changed his sense of defense a lot.
MacAdoo is very forgotten & underrated. We agree on that.
I disagree on J being the first shooting forward to dribble. Elgin Baylor tooks LOTS of guys off the dribble and he played way before Irving. There's always been some guys who were their best off the bounce. Baylor was one of them. But, we agree that the Nets & Sixers ran everything through the Doc, facing the basket with the ball in his hands. At least until Mo Cheeks came along. Then, Doc said "Here, you take the ball."
Maravich was 50% player, 50% entertainer. I might think that's more ok than you do, though. I see all sports as some form or other of entertainment.
I will say that Pete made his name putting up gaudy numbers while his dad was head coach. Not sure many other coaches would have tolerated that. But. I have a higher opinion of him than you. He was shooting from 23 feet when it was still only worth 2, and he shot 45% for his career. Had their been a 3 line, he certainly would have averaged more than his 24ppg. I'll go with you that he should have averaged more than 5 & a half assists per game.
I noticed you didn't mention Boerwinkle! Actually, he was a really good passer and mostly played high post. Good position to slide over & set screens.
BTW: because this is Chicago area, it was in the sports news this week. Bob Love turned 80 this past Thursday!
I met him when I was about 14. I was staggered by his size. 6'8" and thick. He was the closest thing I'd seen, up to that point, to a giant. Boy, were his hands HUGE.