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In reply to the discussion: Why should God need HELL? [View all]

gtar100

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8. God's omnipotents aside, Hell makes sense as a metaphor
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 03:38 PM
Nov 2018

by looking at it from a different perspective. The idea of eternal damnation of souls is an absurd idea but one full of power in the heads of men and women who are trying to manipulate and control others. I find this to be the most reasonable explanation for the existence of this idea of eternal punishment. Eternal punishment, however, even for the most heinous of crimes on earth, is absurd because at some point it ceases to be punishment and simply becomes sadistic.

I believe this perspective is of human origin because it serves human interests. But I don't dismiss the concept of Hell as false, I very much believe it to be real. Not as some moralistic punishment but as natural consequence of wrong action. The eternal nature of Hell isn't because souls go there and stay there forever, it's because wrong actions never lead to good results. To put it another way, evil actions never result in good, only more pain and suffering. People can and do learn from their mistakes and leave the confines of Hell. But things like envy, avarice, sadism, gluttony, abuse, neglect, etc., never lead to positive ends. And that I believe to be an eternal truth.

Sometimes it takes some real hard knocks to get the message through, and some may never get it before they pass away, but to think anyone is deserving of eternal punishment shows a vindictiveness that hasn't really thought through the immensity of eternity - or considered a better aim, redemption (to use a religious term), or just simply one who realizes the errors of their way and takes personal responsibility to learn and grow and make ammends where necessarily . As in, we must learn from our mistakes or risk suffering the consequences. Money and numbing agents can only protect someone for so long against natural consequences. It's also similar to that aphorism of doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result. It just doesn't happen. It applies from the simple (i.e., me being a jerk to my sister) to the profoundly complex evil (i.e., despicable people planning and causing genocide). Never leads to good results.

The idea of a God who punishes that which it creates flies in the face of logic, reason, compassion and even in the face of practicality. The Christian church decided to tie one of its masts to this notion of eternal punishment and that is too bad for them. Their problem...walk away from it. But that our worst days and suffering through our worst behaviors can be described as going through Hell, what better description is there. Good is not possible to achieve through evil means. That is what I get out of the metaphor of eternal Hell.

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Why should God need HELL? [View all] Soph0571 Nov 2018 OP
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2018 #1
Like with all inconsistencies in religion, Hav Nov 2018 #2
He wants adoration. Like the men who made him up Corvo Bianco Nov 2018 #3
There's plenty of need for it Major Nikon Nov 2018 #4
Free Will bitterross Nov 2018 #5
A burning stick Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #10
Who says God NEEDS Hell? Mariana Nov 2018 #6
The god of the bible killed at least 2 million. Satan only 10. Major Nikon Nov 2018 #15
My recollection is that the Satan character only killed 5 in the Job wager? Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #22
God doesn't need hell The Genealogist Nov 2018 #7
God's omnipotents aside, Hell makes sense as a metaphor gtar100 Nov 2018 #8
It does help the weak minded sleep better at night Major Nikon Nov 2018 #16
The imaginary being known as God didn't create Hell... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #9
I believe you have cracked the case! rurallib Nov 2018 #11
Why would the perfect god create such imperfect beings.. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #12
Zactly. Only one answer: "God" is a sadist. Duppers Nov 2018 #14
You do have the best words. Bigly ones and all of them. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #17
🤗 Duppers Nov 2018 #20
Why would he want it? Iggo Nov 2018 #13
Yea I hate Republicans.. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #18
Am Christian. Sort of. Igel Nov 2018 #19
How many angels dance on the head of a pin? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #21
I think you may have Duppers Nov 2018 #23
I know where I am, thanks. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #24
People need Hell. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #25
yeah but the vast majority of folks get out of prison qazplm135 Nov 2018 #28
Prison is legal torture. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #29
Free Will zipplewrath Nov 2018 #26
Without a Sell-By Date Brainstormy Nov 2018 #27
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