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DetlefK

(16,655 posts) Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:44 AM Mar 2019

Philosophical idea. Need opinion. [View all]

Assumptions:
1. God is omnipotent and can do whatever he wants.
2. God is omniscient and knows everything for fact without ambiguities.
3. Belief is trust in a divine entity or concept that a claim is true/false.

Can God have a belief?

No, he can't. God does not trust or believe that something is true/false. He knows for fact that it is either true or false because he is omniscient.

If God cannot have belief, he is not omnipotent.

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Philosophical idea. Need opinion. [View all] DetlefK Mar 2019 OP

You have a hole. You have to link the requirement of belief to be omnipotent tymorial Mar 2019 #1

re DetlefK Mar 2019 #7

Yes Bretton Garcia Mar 2019 #19

Since belief is a quality of a created being, God does not need belief IndianaDave Mar 2019 #26

1. Where does it say that only created beings can have belief???? DetlefK Mar 2019 #28

You are the one who posited that God is omniscient. Refer to your post. IndianaDave Mar 2019 #30

How do you know that God is not supposed to have belief? DetlefK Apr 2019 #32

Some people believe that God encompasses everything. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #29

Perhaps this omnipotent, omniscient god is irrational. Mariana Mar 2019 #8

That would explain a lot of the early bible Lordquinton Mar 2019 #15

It's fascinating how many people assume Mariana Mar 2019 #16

Good, wise, sane, loving Lordquinton Mar 2019 #18

Old question zipplewrath Mar 2019 #2

That conundrum is omnipotence vs omnipotence. DetlefK Mar 2019 #6

I don't understand edhopper Mar 2019 #3

It's a contradiction. DetlefK Mar 2019 #4

I see edhopper Mar 2019 #5

One does not create a belief. JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #9

Let's not mix up words. DetlefK Mar 2019 #10

Well, you just want an argument. JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #11

I believe you are wrong. DetlefK Mar 2019 #13

I thought you wanted opinions. JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #14

It would have been nice if your opinion had been rational. DetlefK Apr 2019 #33

Actually, #3 is inaccurate. JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #12

An excellent point. eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #21

Now you are just mincing words. DetlefK Mar 2019 #24

God is love Major Nikon Mar 2019 #17

The Creator believes that humans have the power to grow. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #20

This is The Creator that no human mind can fathom, right? Mariana Mar 2019 #22

It is only a figment of his imagination, so MineralMan Mar 2019 #23

He has faith. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #34

My faith, and my opinion. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #35

Does he believe that humans have the power to grow, or does he know? DetlefK Mar 2019 #25

I believe what I know. rogerashton Mar 2019 #27

Strike the word "belief" and substitute "faith", and I'm pretty much right there with you. Iggo Mar 2019 #31