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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 03:03 PM Mar 2019

"Whataboutism": The Strategy to Get Away With Murder [View all]

https://medium.com/@lawrencegab/whataboutism-the-strategy-to-get-away-with-murder-faecfa7add4

...We are unknowingly being caught into this form of argument because of the way it was purposed. Being able to escape these kinds of situations is precisely why Trump and Putin are so formidable as speakers. Both of these men have gotten away with controversy after controversy using the same technique over and over again. The effectiveness behind Trump and Putin’s use of whataboutism lies in their ability to deflect attention onto other people. By not directly answering these questions and redirecting the audience’s attention, they are hiding behind a logical fallacy known as tu quoque to avoid giving a potentially dangerous answer.

What’s even more crucial to understand is that when someone is being accused and he/she defers to another person/subject, that is neither an acceptance or a denial of the accusation. Let me repeat, that is NEITHER an acceptance or denial of the accusation.

...Even when it’s not about ourselves specifically, like in the cases of sports and religion, we recognize the flaws in other subjects to bring into the conversation in order to distract the accuser. If violence in the Quran is in question, many would turn to the violence written in The Old Testament as a counter for equivalence. But what was really accomplished? Nothing! There was nothing discussed as to why violence occurred in the Quran, just a cowardly subject change instead of a legitimate defense of the Quran. My advice? If you can’t properly defend without changing subjects then you shouldn’t contribute at all. Period. So if we want to have substantive conversations, let’s stop pointing to hypocrisy but either take responsibility or defend with facts. This post is also to bring awareness that when a response falls into the realm of “whataboutism”, you need to be fully conscious of what is occurring in order to lead the conversation for the better.


At least an attempt to mention the OT in response to violence in the Koran is still within the realm of religious texts.

"Whatabout" the Chinese government is not.
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and, is a tu quoque fallacy regardless of the "Intent" (nt) NeoGreen Mar 2019 #1
Correct. n/t trotsky Mar 2019 #2
Arguing that a fallacy requires bad intent is the self-righteousness fallacy marylandblue Mar 2019 #6
An incorrect argument. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #8
Fallacies are in arguments, not in facts. marylandblue Mar 2019 #11
Whataboutism guillaumeb Mar 2019 #18
Damn, you've really humiliated yourself this time. trotsky Mar 2019 #20
Laughable. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #21
Yes, laughable is a good word to describe your flailing. trotsky Apr 2019 #22
LOL Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #15
Not according to actual definitions. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #9
Argument from Authority Fallacy. marylandblue Mar 2019 #13
Simple fallacy. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #17
Then when you call bullshit on the obvious bullshit... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #3
"It's not whataboutism when I do it." - the g-man n/t trotsky Mar 2019 #4
He is the one with the privilege Major Nikon Mar 2019 #5
Flawed, and derivative. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #7
shooting the messenger? uriel1972 Mar 2019 #10
Whataboutism guillaumeb Mar 2019 #19
Oh, dear... MineralMan Mar 2019 #12
Well if a good liberal source like Forbes says Medium is junk, by golly they're junk! LOL trotsky Mar 2019 #14
Meanwhile, ReligionNews is a bastion of objective, journalistic integrity. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #16
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