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Bretton Garcia

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12. This posting refers to another, and essentially will end up often duplicating it.
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:05 PM
May 2019

So I'd rather just refer readers to the other, earlier post. Where I'm continuing the discussion in the original context.

As far as the above? I'd briefly note in passing that 1) I dont know how Gil knows he's getting the accurate info in China; where information gathering is notoriously hard to do. While 2) I have indeed not earlier bothered to read his other probably overidealistic posts on China. In part for the above reason.

3) My look at the one source in fact, found it very notoriously unreliable (q.v.).

4) Given precisely problems with getting reliable info from the interior of China, and from religious dogmatists, I've chosen to begin using a) the long established, known history of Christianity in China; the opium enslavement of Chinese by Christian soldiers. etc.. Then b) the known military, terrorist history of its Muslim neighbors; including most of Pakistan. Then 3) I've relied on many personal conversations with Chinese and Muslim citizens living in the United States.

In addition I use 4) Cultural Studies, Psychological, and anthropological observations on the general and specific underpinning for religions in general, and specific religions in particular. Relying in part on academic degrees; and my having lived in Muslim countries for five years.

Again, rather than continuing here, with Gil's misquotes or references, links, I'd rather refer readers back the original post.

In closing I'd note that Guil ignores some significant qualifiers in my remarks.

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catholic church (theists) have been "re-educating" billions of people for 2000 yrs msongs May 2019 #1
Anything to say about the substance of this post? guillaumeb May 2019 #2
He can feel free to reply in any case. MineralMan May 2019 #3
Yes, anyone can reply. guillaumeb May 2019 #4
Yes it was. Why do you do that? MineralMan May 2019 #7
The answer to that question has already been given Major Nikon May 2019 #14
And the link leads to the original thread. guillaumeb May 2019 #5
The link leads to a reply by me in that thread. MineralMan May 2019 #6
You are incorrect. guillaumeb May 2019 #8
Actually, I'm not incorrect. MineralMan May 2019 #9
Interesting to me, and disturbing, guillaumeb May 2019 #10
Fix the link and we can talk again. MineralMan May 2019 #11
This posting refers to another, and essentially will end up often duplicating it. Bretton Garcia May 2019 #12
The original discussion link: Bretton Garcia May 2019 #13
You admitted that you have not read the psots about China. guillaumeb May 2019 #15
You still have not corrected the link in your OP. MineralMan May 2019 #16
I have read the one article, which you presented as chief evidence Bretton Garcia May 2019 #17
There's a lot of anti China hysteria out there Bretton Garcia May 2019 #18
"Let us deconstruct this reply, starting here:" Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #19
There's actually a better place to start Major Nikon May 2019 #20
Nonsense. guillaumeb May 2019 #23
Why are you linking to MineralMan's post? Do you not understand how links work? AtheistCrusader May 2019 #21
I'm sure he knows. MineralMan May 2019 #22
He has changed that link, MineralMan May 2019 #24
Thank you for finally changing the link. MineralMan May 2019 #25
Gods work in mysterious ways. Voltaire2 May 2019 #26
Loki's like that. MineralMan May 2019 #28
Interesting how you ignore the actual point. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #27
LOL! MineralMan May 2019 #29
Indeed. guillaumeb May 2019 #30
I have no freaking idea what you are talking about, now... MineralMan May 2019 #31
I am not surprised. guillaumeb May 2019 #32
What? No, I don't. I did not add that to my permanent data list. MineralMan May 2019 #33
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