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OneGrassRoot

(23,737 posts)
36. Whew....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:48 PM
Mar 2012

This is a powerful thread.

Thank you both, {{{{{magical thyme}}}}} and {{{{{Blue Iris}}}}} for sharing of yourselves so openly and honestly.

I've had a few similar discussions at the old ASAH about this issue; how "new age" (for lack of a better phrase) viewpoints try so hard to "rise above" (rather than simply BE human, though embracing the better angels of our nature) and see our suffering as soul contracts, or attempt to explain the suffering from a higher perspective in an attempt to help the person feel better in some way, often by being more empowered (hence the inadvertent message of victimization and that we've somehow caused our pain).

I went through a very painful loss years ago, and still vividly remember the hurt and anger I experienced as a result of well-meaning comments, cards and even gifts.

In my case, there wasn't a damn thing anyone could say or do to help me, yet there was so much that was said and done that increased the pain.

Since then, based on that experience, I try not to share any words of wisdom when someone is in pain. Whether it's online or in the "real" world, I simply try to acknowledge their pain and, somehow, let them know if they want to share more, I'm here to listen.

I rarely have any suggestions or advice when others are going through some sort of challenge, traumatic or otherwise. Not only do I not have clear beliefs that I feel could be helpful to others, but I suppose I came away from my own experience with the very strong feeling that the less I say, the better. First, do no harm.

I will say that when I offer hugs and a shoulder/ear, or to be available if the person thinks of any way I can be of service, I mean it most sincerely.

This "being human" thing is nearly unbearable at times, and the attempts to make it bearable, ironically, can compound it.

Simply being present and acknowledging others' pain is, imho, sometimes the most compassionate thing we can do. I realize when someone is in pain and they're asking for solutions and advice they may get upset that people like me may seem to be sharing empty platitudes, but hopefully in hindsight, if not at the time, it can be received in the way it was intended.




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Every story needs its antagonist Saokymo Mar 2012 #1
Perhaps in the long term, edgineered Mar 2012 #2
It is my understanding that SheilaT Mar 2012 #3
I'm just going to flat out say that he made a pact, in addition to being Ecumenist Mar 2012 #4
That possibility (being afraid of what's waiting for him) has come up several times BlueIris Mar 2012 #5
I don't think that it hurt being dick cheney and having lot's a dead presidents Ecumenist Mar 2012 #6
That's about how I feel Saokymo Mar 2012 #7
LOL! Howler Mar 2012 #8
What if he gets a good heart and it changes him... icymist Mar 2012 #9
HHHHHHHOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! Howler Mar 2012 #11
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! icymist Mar 2012 #13
That is exactly what I was thinking Tumbulu Mar 2012 #17
Re: rejection... BlueIris Mar 2012 #10
I had a real problem with him getting the transplant since I've signed to be a donor. GardeningGal Mar 2012 #12
Interesting to think about... BanzaiBonnie Mar 2012 #14
The best thing for everyone is if Cheney has a real change of heart. bigmonkey Mar 2012 #15
Sylvia Browne may have an answer. Cleita Mar 2012 #16
There Are Just People Who Feel Entitled dynasaw Mar 2012 #18
I think only Cheney could truly know his soul purpose magical thyme Mar 2012 #19
Thank you for sharing your experience, magical thyme. BlueIris Mar 2012 #20
I think it's important not to jump to conclusions and assume someone is trying holy fool Mar 2012 #22
Thank you, BlueIris magical thyme Mar 2012 #24
Here is my problem with what you describe: holy fool Mar 2012 #21
you misquoted me magical thyme Mar 2012 #23
Sorry for the misquote the holy fool Mar 2012 #26
first the problem was saying I "wanted" magical thyme Mar 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #30
and this is where it again shows how unfamiliar you are with this group magical thyme Mar 2012 #31
Well said MT Ricochet21 Mar 2012 #32
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #33
LOL maddezmom Mar 2012 #34
Whew.... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #36
I can see how you would think I was unfamiliar with this group im all that Mar 2012 #43
I get your point. magical thyme Mar 2012 #45
I agree get the red out Mar 2012 #27
Thank you, and I agree get the red out Mar 2012 #25
You're right; kentauros Mar 2012 #29
Well said. :) OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #35
I'm glad it made sense to someone! kentauros Mar 2012 #37
I saw someone on Wayne Dyer's latest program last week magical thyme Mar 2012 #38
I'm glad my post made some sense to you kentauros Mar 2012 #39
Gawd, I love that... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #41
There is a purpose; here's what I hope it is.... Avalux Mar 2012 #40
OR....... Howler Mar 2012 #42
I like your humor Tumbulu Mar 2012 #44
:) Howler Mar 2012 #46
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