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Behind the Aegis

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7. I agree.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 02:08 AM
Oct 2015

Of course, there are those who go after Maher not just for being an atheist, but being a "Zionist" (wink, wink). Funny, ain't it? Screeching about prejudice against people because of their religion, then attacking someone because of their ethno-religious background. This week I learned I "hate" the Pope because I think he is a homophobe. I was "corrected" because I "only focus on the negative" and "refuse to acknowledge the positive, liberal stances." I am "impatient." I (and other gay people) need to "get over y(our)selves" and "y(our) hatred of Catholics." I was also reminded that his gay friend doesn't think he is a homophobe, so I must be wrong.

This is also being discussed in GD in two different threads: here and here. Some of the excuses are so formulaic it makes one wonder from what site they culled their responses.

The one area I disagree with Maher is when he said Islamophobia is a useless, made-up term. While it certainly gets misused, like any bigotry, it is real and there are those who do hate Muslims. Some can call it a "misnomer" and that's fine, but I find it to be the same disingenuous argument of those who claim homophobia is "fear of sameness" or "fear of homosexuals" and they aren't afraid of gays, so they aren't homophobes. The granddaddy of them all, the "anti-Semitism is really prejudice against Semites, like Arabs and Palestinians." The irony is the ones who usually say that shit are the same ones calling everyone Islamophobes.

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Oppressive mysogynists are oppressive mysogynists even if that's their religion. Binkie The Clown Oct 2015 #1
Yep, it seems to be a defining criterion in a lot of cases. bvf Oct 2015 #3
What an outstanding response! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #2
I agree. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #7
This is a very good comparison Lordquinton Oct 2015 #8
One slight problem with your comparision... Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #9
All in context reffered to both male and female Lordquinton Oct 2015 #14
Yep, whenever you see the term "new atheists" it's a dog whistle for the anti-atheists. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #10
The thing with the Pope was really upsetting. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #11
And it's really unfair because there are so few lgbt people here who dare speak up anymore. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #12
Many learned "our place" the last time. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #13
Right? Do people really not realize how that sounds??? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #15
What is 'crazy' is when someone rails against that phrase for one group... Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #16
Yes! Or I have ________ in my extended family. Therefore I am _________. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #17
Summed up perfectly in this meme... Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #18
! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #19
Well, we can't have university students exposed to unconventional ideas. Curmudgeoness Oct 2015 #4
I love "clericofascists" Jim Lane Oct 2015 #5
Excellent progressoid Oct 2015 #6
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